Fauci is a republican

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I don’t know what you’re talking about.
The Netherlands, Britain, Germany, France, Italy... all have right-wing (conservative) governments.

Very few left-wing governments out there.
And most governments (left or right) are issueing similar (although there are varients) methods of coping with the pandemic.

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There is no fear.

What the government, experts and health officials see are the hospitals filling up and the capacity to cope with non-corona related issues dropping. Hence the measures needed to slow down the rate of infection.

I brought up the issue of more testing leading to higher numbers of infections at work last week.
It’s not properly measurable. Hence it’s not useful (say data analysts; not me).

Neither is death-rate of any real interest (say government experts). The measure of what needs to be done isn’t even connected to the R-rate; that’s used as an indication on whether things are “currently” getting better or worse. The only true measure of which escalation is needed is hospital admittance and hospital turnover. And the percentage of cases using IC beds.

Amongst all the drama and whining, what truly drives current policies are hard facts on hospital beds.
Too many covid patients in hospital? People have to wait longer for regular operations, etc. Even cancer patients.

And it’s this fact which drive governments’ responses. Not fear. Not socialism. Not oppression.

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Basically the situation in March and April, compared to now.
All that can be drawn is a vague number based on the axioma that first there were x amount of tests with Y results and now there are M amount of tests with N results and then compare the two.

However, there are so many more differentials that, to get anywhere near a proper comparison, that it’s pointless: how many people infected without being tested, etc.
These are my words. They made it way more complicated.

And don’t forget, what these analysts do isn’t achieving “rough definitions”. Whole sectors of the economy can be shut down by the data they produce. So, unless they’re sure, they’re not gonna do it.

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It’s probably two-fold:
- attempting to get people to stick to the rules (not sure fear is a good motivator, but the Dutch have shot for personal responsebility... and that’s not very effective either).
- making it easier to understand.

It’s easier to communicate to the masses in generalisations which are easily understandable: “Killer disease, get the cases down.”

Or: “We’re screwed until 70% of the population have caught the disease. So to keep the healthcare system functioning, we have to spread the cases over a 1,5 year period, keeping the economy going and attempting to lessen the 18 month time span with a vaccine. If we don’t keep healthcare functioning the economy will take a massive hit anyway, etc.”

It just doesn’t sell as well.

So yes. When Boris was shot down about herd immunity, it wasn’t because he was wrong, it was because without slowing the spread Britain would have collapsed.

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even when we have a socialist government in the uk the civil service is predominently right wing so are the royal family.

@metal-brain said
Not true.

Dems are particularly dogmatic when confronted with facts and we would not have heard of the term "Trump Derangement Syndrome" if there was any truth to what you say.

By facts you mean the deranged ramblings of scumbag baby killing anti Vaxxers who are carrying out the Kremlin’s plan to damage the economies and political stability of the western democracies who sanction them every time they commit an extra judicial murder or attempted murder?

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Right wingers want people to work and die so they can profit while simultaneously removing competition

@athousandyoung said
Right wingers want people to work and die so they can profit while simultaneously removing competition

C'mon, dude. Stop acting the spambot.