@wajoma said“ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Let's see how kev did.
W: "Can you post a reputable definition of ultra right wing."
kev bamboozle: FAIL
W: "...then quote something I've said that fits that definition."
kev bamboozle: FAIL
What I am claiming is analogous is force and threat of force. And that if you group all slaves and all slave owners, then compare this to the ...[text shortened]... wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition.
21 times asked, 21 times dodged.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxation.
The similarities are there, the terms are defined the only thing to debate is how much of a slave to goobermint are you today.”
“ Like I said it's only the level that's up for debate, in NZ it's about half your working life, that is to say, no longer 'modest levels of taxation'.
Also to maintain slaves at a level popularised on movies and tv costume dramas (No1's source of history) was in itself very labour intensive, constantly driving, driving, all that whipping, reluctant workers, careless workers, workers with no incentive to do things right the minute your back is turned, add to that food, clothing and housing. All that effort there's not much difference between that and simply doing it yourself.”
Denying the brutality of slavery on an industrial level and pathetically trying to equate its inequity with a modern day PAYE tax system is EXACTLY what an ultra right wing scumbag would do, lo and behold you did EXACTLY that. Your status based on your obvious philosophy isn’t open to debate it’s in the ergo category.
Also note that I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess
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@kevcvs57 saidWhy don't you just fess up, you are unable to:
“ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxati ...[text shortened]... I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess
"....post a reputable definition of ultra right wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition."
You quoted a lot of my posts, thanks for that, they get a second airing, a second read, and I still stand by those comments, but nothing there is 'ultra right wing'. I consistently argue against the initiation of force and threats of force whether slave owners, the IRD, petty bureaurat control freaks or the goobermint (regardless of who is President).
What you need is a reputable definition of 'ultra right wing'.
kev bamboozle:
Can you post a reputable definition of ultra right wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition.
Asked 22 times dodge 21 times.
@wajoma said“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Why don't you just fess up, you are unable to:
"....post a reputable definition of ultra right wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition."
You quoted a lot of my posts, thanks for that, they get a second airing, a second read, and I still stand by those comments, but nothing there is 'ultra right wing'. I consistently argue against the initia ...[text shortened]... ing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition.[/b]
Asked 22 times dodge 21 times.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxation.
The similarities are there, the terms are defined the only thing to debate is how much of a slave to goobermint are you today.”
“ Like I said it's only the level that's up for debate, in NZ it's about half your working life, that is to say, no longer 'modest levels of taxation'.
Also to maintain slaves at a level popularised on movies and tv costume dramas (No1's source of history) was in itself very labour intensive, constantly driving, driving, all that whipping, reluctant workers, careless workers, workers with no incentive to do things right the minute your back is turned, add to that food, clothing and housing. All that effort there's not much difference between that and simply doing it yourself.”
Denying the brutality of slavery on an industrial level and pathetically trying to equate its inequity with a modern day PAYE tax system is EXACTLY what an ultra right wing scumbag would do, lo and behold you did EXACTLY that. Your status based on your obvious philosophy isn’t open to debate it’s in the ergo category.
Also note that I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess
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@kevcvs57 saidThanks kev bamboozle, I hope you have a quick reread every time you repost.
“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxa ...[text shortened]... I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess
Can you post a reputable definition of ultra right wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition.
Asked 23 times, dodged 22 times.
@wajoma said“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Thanks kev bamboozle, I hope you have a quick reread every time you repost.
Can you post a reputable definition of ultra right wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition.
Asked 23 times, dodged 22 times.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxation.
The similarities are there, the terms are defined the only thing to debate is how much of a slave to goobermint are you today.”
“ Like I said it's only the level that's up for debate, in NZ it's about half your working life, that is to say, no longer 'modest levels of taxation'.
Also to maintain slaves at a level popularised on movies and tv costume dramas (No1's source of history) was in itself very labour intensive, constantly driving, driving, all that whipping, reluctant workers, careless workers, workers with no incentive to do things right the minute your back is turned, add to that food, clothing and housing. All that effort there's not much difference between that and simply doing it yourself.”
Denying the brutality of slavery on an industrial level and pathetically trying to equate its inequity with a modern day PAYE tax system is EXACTLY what an ultra right wing scumbag would do, lo and behold you did EXACTLY that. Your status based on your obvious philosophy isn’t open to debate it’s in the ergo category.
Also note that I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess.
@kevcvs57 saidOk, I relent kev bamboozle, I'll help you out. Typed 'ultra right wing into the search and the first hit was wiki. Not with ultra right wing but wiki has 'far right' (another of your favorites) and 'far right extremism'.
“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxa ...[text shortened]... I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess
Here's the first sentence of the first hit for 'ultra-right wing'.
"Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, refers to a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies.[1] The name derives from the left–right political spectrum, with the "far right" considered further from center than the standard political right."
Don't see anything can be quoted from any of my posts can be rammed in there. As a libertarian I believe you should be able to live your life free from force, threats of force and fraud. I'm as opposed to the slavery that occurred in the US 100 years ago as I am to the slavery of modern goobermint. So that can't be it.
Then a reread:
radically conservative, Wanna gay marriage? Go for it. Wanna marry your dog? Go for it. Wanna do meth? Go for it. Wanna eat street food from unlicensed filthy road side stalls? Go for it. Nope, if anything radically unconservative.
ultra-nationalist Nope, spent half my working life away from NZ, citizen of the world.
"...and authoritarian," WTFF, what the fuggin fug? kev bamboozle is about 100 times more authoritarian than me. Which makes kev about 100 times more ultra right wing than me.
To be fair I have been asking kev bamboozle for a reputable definition and wiki hardly counts as that. So again I ask:
Can you post a reputable definition of ultra right wing, then quote something I've said that fits that definition.
Note how all kev bamboozle has left is copy/pasting posts over and over. Not his posts, kev bamboozle is reposting my comments haha.
Ya gotta appreciate the irony there.
😆
@wajoma said“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Ok, I relent kev bamboozle, I'll help you out. Typed 'ultra right wing into the search and the first hit was wiki. Not with ultra right wing but wiki has 'far right' (another of your favorites) and 'far right extremism'.
Here's the first sentence of the first hit for 'ultra-right wing'.
[i]"Far-right politics, or right-wing extremism, refers to a spectrum of political t ...[text shortened]... posts, kev bamboozle is reposting my comments haha.
Ya gotta appreciate the irony there.
😆
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxation.
The similarities are there, the terms are defined the only thing to debate is how much of a slave to goobermint are you today.”
“ Like I said it's only the level that's up for debate, in NZ it's about half your working life, that is to say, no longer 'modest levels of taxation'.
Also to maintain slaves at a level popularised on movies and tv costume dramas (No1's source of history) was in itself very labour intensive, constantly driving, driving, all that whipping, reluctant workers, careless workers, workers with no incentive to do things right the minute your back is turned, add to that food, clothing and housing. All that effort there's not much difference between that and simply doing it yourself.”
Denying the brutality of slavery on an industrial level and pathetically trying to equate its inequity with a modern day PAYE tax system is EXACTLY what an ultra right wing scumbag would do, lo and behold you did EXACTLY that. Your status based on your obvious philosophy isn’t open to debate it’s in the ergo category.
Also note that I’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess.
@kevcvs57 saidnot concerning harris's distortion of what the BLACK wrtier said and meant, I have a question. Why are you libs only concerned with slavery and the US where slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Why do you never mention the slavery that is ongoing right now?
“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxa ...[text shortened]... ’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess.
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@suzianne saiddumb bytch.
Ooooooh, "force and threats of force".
Well done.
That's the great thing about an anonymous message board, it's not possible to initiate force and threats of force.
I can't threaten you.
Saying 'shut it' is as meaningless as the shyte you post here incessantly. That was the point.
@kevcvs57 saidkev bamboozle said:
“ “ This is no more exaggerated than the 'US was built on the backs of slaves' fairy tales.
Dealing with men by force and threats of force is not the most productive way. Also there were levels of slavery one might say their salary was garnished (whether they liked it or not) to be be provided with services (whether they liked them or not) not entirely unlike modern taxa ...[text shortened]... ’m not talking about you in the third person whilst deluding myself that I have an audience duchess.
"Denying the brutality of slavery on an industrial level and pathetically trying to equate its inequity with a modern day PAYE tax system is EXACTLY what an ultra right wing scumbag would do..."
Of course this is not what I said, but...
yes, there's a 'but...
... but if I had said it I still can't find a reputable definition of ultra right wing that says this discussion makes one definitively 'ultra right wing'.
We've had:
Radically conservative
Ultra-nationalist
Authoritarian
...and on all three I'm the opposite. Was the wiki definition incorrect? Can you please post another reputable definition of 'ultra right wing'. We can drop the 'quote something I've posted that fits the definition' aspect for now. From the get go we need something to work with i.e. a reputable definition of 'ultra right wing' that does not include: Radically conservative, ultra-nationalist and authoritarian
Asked for the 27th time, dodged 26 times.
kev bamboozle, if you could, please repost some of my comments so we can review them again 😆 😀 😵 🙂
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@mott-the-hoople saidWe’d love to talk about it but you illiberal’s are so obsessed with your faux culture war that we just don’t have the time.
not concerning harris's distortion of what the BLACK wrtier said and meant, I have a question. Why are you libs only concerned with slavery and the US where slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Why do you never mention the slavery that is ongoing right now?
At one point the dumbass DeSantis claimed that slaves learnt skill sets that they could use at a later point, err what later point? Did he mean in slave heaven?
Perhaps if you guys stop hiding behind an imaginary culture war and actually stand on some grown up socioeconomic political substance and try to get elected on that instead attacking vulnerable minorities, but if you insist on attacking vulnerable minorities then liberals will highlight the fact that your policies are bigoted in essence.
P.s there are many liberals trying to reduce the instance of and ameliorate the effects of modern day slavery. What are you guys doing?