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  1. 01 May '12 04:02
    http://www.therightscoop.com/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-to-marxism-socialism/

    Many communists and radical publications and entitles throughout the 19th and 20th century had the name "Forward" or its foriegn cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called "Forward (generic name of socialist publications)". The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. "It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist, and other left-winged newspapers and publications," the online encyclopedia explains.

    The slogan "Forward!", reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism.

    The Obama administration campaign released its new campaign slogan Monday in a 7 minute video. The title card has simply the "Forward" with the "O" having the familiar Obama logo from 2008. It will be played at rallies this weekend that mark the Obama re-election campaign's official beginning.

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    So how many people here don't think that the Obama administration knew about the historical use of the word "Forward!" in political discourse before it they adopted it as their own? My guess is that it is an attempt to appeal to their base, which are essentially socialists and communists. It then has the added bonus of playing with the minds of those on the right.
  2. 01 May '12 12:03
    Yes whodey. I hear they were almost ready to with the slogan of "long love soviet Russia!" but instead went with Forward.
  3. 01 May '12 14:25
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.therightscoop.com/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-to-marxism-socialism/

    Many communists and radical publications and entitles throughout the 19th and 20th century had the name "Forward" or its foriegn cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called "Forward (generic name of socialist publications)". The name Forward carries a special meaning i ...[text shortened]... s. It then has the added bonus of playing with the minds of those on the right.
    Oh I am sure its all a mere coincidence whodey.

    Even though Barry wrote in his own book that in college he tended to gravitate towards communist student groups and communist professors. I'm sure he has no idea of the significance of the slogan "forward" and the meaning it has for left wing extremist scum.
  4. 01 May '12 14:31
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Oh I am sure its all a mere coincidence whodey.

    Even though Barry wrote in his own book that in college he tended to gravitate towards communist student groups and communist professors. I'm sure he has no idea of the significance of the slogan "forward" and the meaning it has for left wing extremist scum.
    I guess Mitt Romney will use the term "Backward!" as a slogan to prove that he's the opposite of a communist.
  5. 01 May '12 14:36
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    I guess Mitt Romney will use the term "Backward!" as a slogan to prove that he's the opposite of a communist.
    The American way is backward Huh ? Interesting.

    All Romney has to do is stay focused and keep pounding on Obamas record. It is abysmal. He does that and he is sure to win.
  6. 01 May '12 14:38
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    The American way is backward Huh ? Interesting.

    All Romney has to do is stay focused and keep pounding on Obamas record. It is abysmal. He does that and he is sure to win.
    The American way is backward Huh ? Interesting.

    I didn't say that.
  7. 01 May '12 18:22
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    [b]The American way is backward Huh ? Interesting.

    I didn't say that.[/b]
    It does not matter what you said, the right wing fanatics have a 'words twisting machine' that they smuggled out of Nazi Germany after the war.
  8. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    01 May '12 18:33 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by whodey
    My guess is that it is an attempt to appeal to their base, which are essentially socialists and communists. It then has the added bonus of playing with the minds of those on the right.
    I don't read that much into it. I'm sure it's just another poll-tested slogan that appeals to Democrats (and others) who are tired of Congress' sitting on its hands and not tackling any of the hard issues.

    Seriously, how many people in the country do you really think know the connotations you're talking about? Did you know about them, before you read that article?
  9. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    01 May '12 18:37
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    The American way is backward? Interesting.
    No, but apparently the Republican way is to run away from anything and everything Democrats propose or enact, even if it was originally a Republican idea.
  10. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    01 May '12 18:51 / 2 edits
    For a left-leaning (not communist or socialist, though...sorry) perspective on the new slogan, take a look at this CNN opinion piece:

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/01/opinion/granderson-hope-and-change/index.html
  11. 01 May '12 19:57
    Originally posted by PsychoPawn
    I guess Mitt Romney will use the term "Backward!" as a slogan to prove that he's the opposite of a communist.
    Can we go backward to a time when the dollar was worth something and there were jobs?
  12. 01 May '12 19:59 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by utherpendragon
    Oh I am sure its all a mere coincidence whodey.

    Even though Barry wrote in his own book that in college he tended to gravitate towards communist student groups and communist professors. I'm sure he has no idea of the significance of the slogan "forward" and the meaning it has for left wing extremist scum.
    That is what I thought. Clearly Obama had no clue as to the historically political usuage of the word "Forward". I guess he can plead ignorance.......as usual.

    Personally, I think he just enjoys yanking our chain with the added bonus of solidifying his base.
  13. 01 May '12 20:04
    Originally posted by whodey
    Can we go backward to a time when the dollar was worth something and there were jobs?
    You think the dollar isn't worth anything? Ok... then you won't mind giving me all of yours?
  14. 01 May '12 20:40
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://www.therightscoop.com/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-to-marxism-socialism/

    Many communists and radical publications and entitles throughout the 19th and 20th century had the name "Forward" or its foriegn cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called "Forward (generic name of socialist publications)". The name Forward carries a special meaning i ...[text shortened]... s. It then has the added bonus of playing with the minds of those on the right.
    I think you're completely right Whodey. You and uther have convinced me.

    We also need to go and bring the hammer down in Wisconsin.

    http://www.wisconsin.gov/state/core/wisconsin_state_symbols.html

    The motto of Wisonsin is.... FORWARD!!!! OMG Wisonsin is COMMUNIST!!!!!
  15. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    01 May '12 20:52 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by whodey
    That is what I thought. Clearly Obama had no clue as to the historically political usuage of the word "Forward". I guess he can plead ignorance.......as usual.

    Personally, I think he just enjoys yanking our chain with the added bonus of solidifying his base.
    I still don't think his campaign chose "Forward" because of any potential socialist implications.

    But humoring you... say he did. Exactly how many Americans do you think understand that association?