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Originally posted by Bosse de NageOf course there is no proof that this flooding has anything to do with global warming. If anyone wants to argue that it does then how would one explain why this level of flooding occurred in Britain 60 years ago?
"Merely"...ha ha ha...Half of Britain is "merely" underwater...nothing to worry about though...business as usual...
For the record I don't deny that global warming is occurring nor that humans are at least partially the cause of it. I just think the doomsday predictions and pointing to global warming as the cause of flooding and other natural disasters is a bit over the top at this point.
That being said, I still think measures to curb our influence on global warming are common sense and have side benefits, such as reduced energy consumption, as well.
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI'm asking what would the content of a convincing argument be?
How can there be anything approaching "conclusive proof" when every day there is new evidence that disputes, mitigates or repudiates what the Goracle and his ass-kissing sycophants have to say?
With what scientific data would your belief in the human impact on
global warming switch?
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Originally posted by UllrWell said.
Of course there is no proof that this flooding has anything to do with global warming. If anyone wants to argue that it does then how would one explain why this level of flooding occurred in Britain 60 years ago?
For the record I don't deny that global warming is occurring nor that humans are at least partially the cause of it. I just think the doomsday pr ...[text shortened]... l warming are common sense and have side benefits, such as reduced energy consumption, as well.
Here's an entertaining conjectural piece on a drowned London: http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/wreck-diving-london.html
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Originally posted by Bosse de NageThat is interesting. Gotta love the irony of a rising Scottish landscape tilting Britain and pushing London into the sea.
Well said.
Here's an entertaining conjectural piece on a drowned London: http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/wreck-diving-london.html
Private citizens, who know nothing meaningful about climate science, are arguing pointlessly. Scientists are split and some have recently changed sides on the argument.
Read the history on this debate...climate disaster warnings have been on-going for 110 years. Finally someone has collected the data and logged the record.
Do a google search for: BMI Special Report -- Fire and Ice
After reading the ENTIRE article (which includes interesting reprints of periodical covers from the time periods involved!) make up your own mind - BASED ON FACTS. 🙂 I promise you will find it interesting!
Originally posted by MacSwainI'll have to check that out... I didnt know they had any factual web sites out there on the subject.
Private citizens, who know nothing meaningful about climate science, are arguing pointlessly. Scientists are split and some have recently changed sides on the argument.
Read the history on this debate...climate disaster warnings have been on-going for 110 years. Finally someone has collected the data and logged the record.
Do a google search for: BM ...[text shortened]... involved!) make up your own mind - BASED ON FACTS. 🙂 I promise you will find it interesting!
Hopefully, this will finally show these guys how wrong they are.
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou mean like the infamous "hockey stick" graph made up by Michael Mann and shown in Al Gore's tragi-comedy?
Although that is a rather vague statement which could mean almost anything, would you care to back it up as every chart I have seen shows a marked increase at the end so I wonder where you read otherwise.
http://www.john-daly.com/hockey/hockey.htm
Originally posted by SpastiGovFor starters, the first graph isn't even global temperatures, it's "Lamb's central England estimate", i.e. the estimated temperatures for central England.
You mean like the infamous "hockey stick" graph made up by Michael Mann and shown in Al Gore's tragi-comedy?
http://www.john-daly.com/hockey/hockey.htm
http://stopeglobalwarming.info/blog/global-warming-news/the-weirdest-millennium/
It's meaningless to use that graph whilst discussing global temperatures.
http://holocene.meteo.psu.edu/shared/articles/medclimopt.pdf
will probably be of interest
Originally posted by MacSwainExcellent article! Thanks macswain. It's what I've been saying for ages, that the current 'golbal warming' trend is just another hobgoblin in a long list of hobgoblins!
Private citizens, who know nothing meaningful about climate science, are arguing pointlessly. Scientists are split and some have recently changed sides on the argument.
Read the history on this debate...climate disaster warnings have been on-going for 110 years. Finally someone has collected the data and logged the record.
Do a google search for: BM ...[text shortened]... involved!) make up your own mind - BASED ON FACTS. 🙂 I promise you will find it interesting!
Full report here: http://www.businessandmedia.org/specialreports/2006/fireandice/fireandice.asp
Originally posted by mrstabbyYour reply is a typical non sequitur. I was responding to twhitehead who said "every chart he's seen shows a marked increase at the end". Presumably he meant warming. Thus my comment: "Like the infamous hockey stick?" That specious graph invented by Michael Mann that is now broken (not that it stopped Al Gore using it in his comedy).
For starters, the first graph isn't even global temperatures, it's "Lamb's central England estimate", i.e. the estimated temperatures for central England.
http://stopeglobalwarming.info/blog/global-warming-news/the-weirdest-millennium/
It's meaningless to use that graph whilst discussing global temperatures.
http://holocene.meteo.psu.edu/shared/articles/medclimopt.pdf
will probably be of interest
Got it?
Originally posted by MacSwainYup, I suspected that the media's got it wrong a lot, but not quite on that scale. That's why it's important to look at peer review, which time and time again points the finger at AGW.
Private citizens, who know nothing meaningful about climate science, are arguing pointlessly. Scientists are split and some have recently changed sides on the argument.
Read the history on this debate...climate disaster warnings have been on-going for 110 years. Finally someone has collected the data and logged the record.
Do a google search for: BM ...[text shortened]... involved!) make up your own mind - BASED ON FACTS. 🙂 I promise you will find it interesting!
The global cooling in the 70s was definitely sensationalist http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11643