Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWell the basic problem is not the oil, its the carbon that burning the oil produces. So there are plans afoot to store or re-use, catalytically convert the C02 into some hydrocarbon again to actually recycle it so CO2 does not build up so much in the atmosphere. So science may yet come through but it better be soon, I don't want to see the climate go down like a kiyak over Niagra.
Peak oil theory has proven wrong every time and so will the wild predictions of Al Gore and his disciples.
Originally posted by zeeblebotWell.... Looky here.
"Johnson said Gore's home has gas lamps lining his driveway, a heated pool and an electric gate — all of which would be easy to do without.
"He's not doing enough in his home to be going around telling other people how to reduce consumption," Johnson said. "
The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.
A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.
No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy.
This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=0510480a-802a-23ad-401c-e362782ce790
Just wanted to post that last one again.
Posted by Marc Morano Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov - February 27, 2007 4:21 pm ET
Former Vice President Al Gore has been criticized for his rather large electric bills ($30,000 a year) at his home in Tennessee. (Link) What you might not have heard about is how environmentally friendly President George Bush's home is in Crawford Texas. Below is a partial reprint from the Chicago Tribune from April 29, 2001.
Chicago Tribune
Bush loves ecology --at home
April 29, 2001
By Rob Sullivan. Rob Sullivan is a freelance writer based in Los Angeles
The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.
A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.
No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak trying to shame his fellow citizens into following the pristineness of his self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven where tree-huggers plot political strategy.
This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford
[EPW Note: The President’s House in Crawford was designed to be eco-friendly.]
According to David Heymann, the house's architect and associate dean of the University of Texas architecture department, Heymann designed the house so that "every room has a relationship with something in the landscape that's different from the room next door. Each of the rooms feels like a slightly different place."
In a USA Today interview, Heymann said, "There's a great grove of oak trees to the west that protects it from the late afternoon sun. Then there is a view out to the north looking at hills, and to the east out over a lake, and the view to the south . . . out to beautiful hills."
[EPW Note: I wonder if the news media will report on the President’s green way of life.]
Originally posted by MerkEven if true, so what????? The important thing about a politician is what PUBLIC POLICIES he supports, not what he does in private. I thought you right wingers would have realized that by now. But apparently if you're losing the public policy debate, it's time to personalize the issue.
Just wanted to post that last one again.
Posted by Marc Morano Marc_Morano@EPW.Senate.Gov - February 27, 2007 4:21 pm ET
Former Vice President Al Gore has been criticized for his rather large electric bills ($30,000 a year) at his home in Tennessee. (Link) What you might not have heard about is how environmentally friendly President George Bush's home is Note: I wonder if the news media will report on the President’s green way of life.]
EDIT: Though it is nice to see that even President Dimwit realizes the advantages of solar power.
EDIT2: Do you think "double posting" a cut and paste makes it even more important?
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Originally posted by no1marauderSo what?!?! That's your answer?
Even if true, so what????? The important thing about a politician is what PUBLIC POLICIES he supports, not what he does in private. I thought you right wingers would have realized that by now. But apparently if you're losing the public policy debate, it's time to personalize the issue.
EDIT: Though it is nice to see that even President Dimwit realizes ...[text shortened]... power.
EDIT2: Do you think "double posting" a cut and paste makes it even more important?
Of course it is important what politicians actually do in real life. Would you tell your kids not to smoke pot and then go into the basement and light your crackpipe?
What one does is more important than what one says. Who a person is can only be summed up by their deeds not their words. Its called leadership.
Originally posted by UllrDo you think Hitler being a vegetarian who loved his dog made him a good person?
So what?!?! That's your answer?
Of course it is important what politicians actually do in real life. Would you tell your kids not to smoke pot and then go into the basement and light your crackpipe?
What one does is more important than what one says. Who a person is can only be summed up by their deeds not their words. Its called leadership.
Originally posted by zeeblebotYeah, but how much power does the typical 10,000 sf home use?
"Utility records show the Gore family paid an average monthly electric bill of about $1,200 last year for its 10,000-square foot home.
The Gores used about 191,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, according to bills reviewed by The Associated Press spanning the period from Feb. 3, 2006, to Jan. 5. That is far more than the typical Nashville household, which uses about 15,600 kilowatt-hours per year.
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(Making a comparison to the "typical Nashville household" is disingenuous.)
Originally posted by UllrThe point No1 was making is that the way Bush has his house heated doesn't make his policies acceptable. He was responding to the praise Merk was lavishing on GW not defending Al Gore. The criticism of Al Gore is justified - if he wants to make political capital out of global warming then he ought to put his own house in order, in fairness he seems to be starting as at the bottom of the post it mentions that he's having solar panels installed.
So what?!?! That's your answer?
Of course it is important what politicians actually do in real life. Would you tell your kids not to smoke pot and then go into the basement and light your crackpipe?
What one does is more important than what one says. Who a person is can only be summed up by their deeds not their words. Its called leadership.
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Originally posted by DeepThoughtAgreed. My comments were aimed at Gore but then again he always struck me as a hypocrite so I'm not surprised. I wasn't joining in to praise Bush. Gods forbid we wouldn't want to do that.
The criticism of Al Gore is justified - if he wants to make political capital out of global warming then he ought to put his own house in order, in fairness he seems to be starting as at the bottom of the post it mentions that he's having solar panels installed.
Originally posted by Wajomathat's what they did with the "how is Iraq like Vietnam?" threads.
Advice for the disciples of gore and global warmism alarmism: If you find yourself in a hole, don't keep digging. Ignore this thread, hopefully it will die away before too many notice the shrieking hypocrisy.