ALBERT EINSTEIN
I have read some of his books with understanding. He was a great physicist. He was a great humanist, too.
HANNAH ARENDT
I have read her book "The Origins of Totalitarianism". She defined the notion of totalitarianism, explained why totalitarian regimes are catastrophes, and showed the profound similarity between the Stalist and Hitlerian regimes. She was a good philosopher, an excellent political theorist and a great humanist.
BOBBY FISCHER
I have analyzed some of his chessgames. He was a great chess player. Unfortunately, he started to deny that he was a Jew.
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU
I have seen his deeds. He is a great war criminal. His ideology is as schizophrenic as Hitler's ideology. A new Nurenberg tribunal is required.
28 Nov 23
Bobby Fischer was a great Jew?
Oy.
Okay, look. I'm going to keep this civil because somehow I sense that you're not being merely provocative or baiting.
But I'd kindly ask that you read up a bit and figure out how insensitive and hurtful that remark would be to any Jew who cared what you thought.
28 Nov 23
@Ponderable
The male that Freud found was possibly one developing early, which was something of a fluke
@sh76 saidSorry, but I am unable to understand what you are saying.
Bobby Fischer was a great Jew?
Oy.
Okay, look. I'm going to keep this civil because somehow I sense that you're not being merely provocative or baiting.
But I'd kindly ask that you read up a bit and figure out how insensitive and hurtful that remark would be to any Jew who cared what you thought.
If you are not sure that Bobby Fischer was a Jew, then you are poorly informed.
Bobby Fischer's father was a Jew, an ingenious mathematician in Hungary.
It has been proved based on the FBI files made public.
Chess historians used the FOIA - Freedom of the Information Act to get the FBI files on Bobby Fischer public.
These files can be freely found on the internet. There are special FOIA sites where all the documents obtained through FOIA can be found.
Among chess historians, there is a consensus now that Bobby Fischer was a Jew.
Moreover, it is known that finally Bobby learnt who his father was.
@ponderable saidOf course. Sigmund Freud.
Siegmund Freud
Psychatrists developping models on the human sould which are (party and altered) still in use today.
Also Spinoza.
Jews expelled Spinoza from their community because Spinoza wrote that the Bible should be interpreted allegorically and God is not a person.
My list is incomplete, that is sure.
28 Nov 23
@vivify saidI do not know whether Bobby Fischer was antisemitic.
He means that Fischer was antisemitic, despite being Jewish.
The question is about whether Bobby Fischer was an antisemite or, instead, an antizionist.
These are two different things, and, today, one of the main features of Netanyahu's schizophrenic ideology I mentioned above is exactly the so-called "Anti-Semitism Hoax": all critics of ultra-zionism are labelled as "anti-semites".
Bobby Fischer was a highly controversial person.
Some of Fischer's sayings demonstrate his great humanism and great courage to object to the totalitarian McCarthyism of the United States. At the same time, some of his views and sayings demonstrate that outside of the chessboard, he was poorly educated, naive and psychologically unstable.
Obviously, in my initial post, I kept in mind that Bobby Fischer was a great Jew in the sense that he was a Jew and he was one of the greatest chess players ever.
I did not add anything else in the case of Bobby Fischer. In turn, in the case of Albert Einstein, for example, I said that Einstein was a great physicist, and I also added that he was a great humanist, too.
Therefore, I regard the critical remarks one made above as malevolent.
Some people do not have the ability of functional reading while they are obsessed with their dogmatic ideology. Definitely, such ultra-zionists are worse persons than Bobby Fisher was.
29 Nov 23
@eintaluj saidFischer was a paranoid Jew hater. It was not simply anti Zionism.
I do not know whether Bobby Fischer was antisemitic.
The question is about whether Bobby Fischer was an antisemite or, instead, an antizionist.
These are two different things, and, today, one of the main features of Netanyahu's schizophrenic ideology I mentioned above is exactly the so-called "Anti-Semitism Hoax": all critics of ultra-zionism are labell ...[text shortened]... th their dogmatic ideology. Definitely, such ultra-zionists are worse persons than Bobby Fisher was.
https://libquotes.com/bobby-fischer/quote/lbd7u2t
America is totally under control of the Jews, you know. I mean, look what they're doing in Yugoslavia... The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense are dirty Jews.
Bobby Fischer
Radio Interview, May 24 1999
29 Nov 23
@athousandyoung saidBobby Fischer:
Fischer was a paranoid Jew hater. It was not simply anti Zionism.
https://libquotes.com/bobby-fischer/quote/lbd7u2t
America is totally under control of the Jews, you know. I mean, look what they're doing in Yugoslavia... The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense are dirty Jews.
Bobby Fischer
Radio Interview, May 24 1999
"America is totally under control of the Jews, you know. I mean, look what they're doing in Yugoslavia... The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense are dirty Jews."
I did not check this quotation, but it seems to fit what I have read about Bobby Fischer.
However, I still do not know whether it is "antisemitism", "antizionism", or stupidity.
Complaining that "America is totally under control of the Jews" might not assume that all the Jews are controlling America. Thus, it might be an antizionistic view.
However, if Fischer goes on to show intolerance towards all Jews, it amounts to antisemitism.
This is one of the ways how antisemitism arises, as well today. A mistaken mind makes an invalid generalisation from some kind of Jews (for example, the ultra-zionists) to all the Jews.
The same happens if someone thinks that all the Germans are Nazis.
I really do not know how stupid Bobby Fischer was concerning issues outside the chessboard.
However, the criticism above concerning my initial post is Jew-centered. Why do these critics think that "great Jews" means "great Jews in Jews's own view"? There are billions of people on the planet. If they think that one particular Jew was a great Jew because he was a great chess player, then, of course, they do not mean that he was a politically great Jew according to the standards of some Jews.
To say that it is insulting to Jews to declare that Fischer was a great Jewish chess player is as good as to say that it is insulting to all the rest of mankind to ignore Fischer as a great chess player.
29 Nov 23
@athousandyoung saidIn my original post, I mentioned only some great Jews, all of whom I have personally read or analysed their chess games.
Isaac Asimov was a great Jew.
I have read Isaac Asimov's books. Of course, that man was a genius. One of the best science fiction authors ever.