Gun Insurance

@mott-the-hoople said
will this insurance bring the child back to life?

No. But such restrictions could help the child from being murdered in the first place. Even if it doesn't, it can at least help deal with the enormous tragedy.

@mott-the-hoople said
"shall not infringe"

what part of that are you not getting?

"Well regulated militia".

What pare of that are you not getting?

@bunnyknight said
@vivify
Here's an even better idea:

Force lawmakers to carry insurance that would provide any victim of crime $1 million compensation for failure to protect that citizen from crime while promoting a dysfunctional society that generates criminals.

This is moronic.....
What a maroon 😛

@mott-the-hoople said
"shall not infringe"

what part of that are you not getting?

What part of "right to bear arms" aren't you getting?

No right is absolute as the Framers knew very well.

@vivify said
"Well regulated militia".

What pare of that are you not getting?

I understand that you cant form a militia if you dont have arms.

The scotus ruled on this...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

If you cant understand that I will see if I can find it in crayon form somewhere.

@no1marauder said
What part of "right to bear arms" aren't you getting?

No right is absolute as the Framers knew very well.

just shut up...now you are trying to say the constitution doesnt mean anything...blabbering fool

@mott-the-hoople said
I understand that you cant form a militia if you dont have arms.

The scotus ruled on this...
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

If you cant understand that I will see if I can find it in crayon form somewhere.

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/second-amendment-does-not-guarantee-right-own-gun-gun-control-p-99

Second Amendment Does Not Guarantee the Right To Own a Gun

If your redneck ass can't understand that, I'll see if I can find it outlined in meth for you

@vivify said
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/second-amendment-does-not-guarantee-right-own-gun-gun-control-p-99

Second Amendment Does Not Guarantee the Right To Own a Gun

If your redneck ass can't understand that, I'll see if I can find it outlined in meth for you

go throw your hissy fit

@vivify said
Semantics noted.

You can own a car without insurance but you can't use it; in NY state, uninsured vehicles must be put on blocks. Let's make it that uninsured gun owners have guns that don't work.

Forced insurance is just a scam cooked up between insurance Co's and gooberment. Many countries do not have it and they get along fine. This is one of the great things about travel, it broadens the mind, something vivify is missing. When one travels you'll find in one country they regulate the hell out of X but on issue Y the citizens enjoy freedom, while in the next country, (possibly over some arbitrary line scratched in the dirt) it's the other way around, and you know what, people just live their lives, the don't need busybodies pushing them around, they don't need business getting into bed with gooberment (the initiators of force and treats of force) forcing them to buy made up products.

When NZ introduced mandatory cycle helmets (a law now largely ignored) the scandal was the woman advocating for them was involved in importing cycle helmets. But it speaks to my other point, most countries don't have cycle helmet laws and people get along just fine.

So here we see the same scenario playing out, a law forcing people to buy a product, a growth in buratcracy and some pollies becoming mysteriously rich. The game is laid bare and for all to see, and yet vivify still blindly trips over it, metaphorically falling for it again.

@vivify said
No. But such restrictions could help the child from being murdered in the first place. Even if it doesn't, it can at least help deal with the enormous tragedy.

I think then, you're argument may have been stated as follows:

If it were your child's murder that was avoided because a gun owner couldn't afford insurance and turned in his gun instead,...

Is that a fair characterization?

If so, shouldn't we just openly admit that the purpose and hope of this legislation is to chip away at gun ownership freedom?

@wajoma said
Forced insurance is just a scam cooked up between insurance Co's and gooberment. Many countries do not have it and they get along fine. This is one of the great things about travel, it broadens the mind, something vivify is missing. When one travels you'll find in one country they regulate the hell out of X but on issue Y the citizens enjoy freedom, while in the next country ...[text shortened]... and for all to see, and yet vivify still blindly trips over it, metaphorically falling for it again.

No one ignores the helmet law here,
nor the seat belt law......Speaking of regulations,
what are the firearm ownership laws in KIWI LAND?
Walk into a store and buy a gun the same day, can 'ya?

@wajoma said
Forced insurance is just a scam cooked up between insurance Co's and gooberment. Many countries do not have it and they get along fine. This is one of the great things about travel, it broadens the mind, something vivify is missing. When one travels you'll find in one country they regulate the hell out of X but on issue Y the citizens enjoy freedom, while in the next country ...[text shortened]... eriously rich. The game is laid bare and for all to see, and yet vivify still blindly trips over it.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

In 2021, Only 9 countries had a higher firearm-related death rate than the U.S.

Let's set aside the emotional and mental toll of losing a loved one killed by guns and focus on the immense financial burden it places: the cost of funerals, time off taken from needed to grieve, organize the funeral, help family members in need, etc.

Or if the person killed was needed financially to support bills, or if they were needed to help raise kids or take care of family, etc.

Who is going to take care of such people?

While I agree that health insurance is a scam, gun insurance make complete sense for a gun-crazy nation like the U.S. If lawmakers will keep insisting on letting people own hordes of deadly firearms that become increasingly more advanced and efficient at killing, the absolute least we can do is have a way to help cover the cost of hardships caused by guns.

@techsouth said
I think then, you're argument may have been stated as follows:

If it were your child's murder that was avoided because a gun owner couldn't afford insurance and turned in his gun instead,...

Is that a fair characterization?

If so, shouldn't we just openly admit that the purpose and hope of this legislation is to chip away at gun ownership freedom?

That's not the stated purpose of the law, as shown by the Fox News link posted near the beginning of this thread. The stated purpose is to help victims or families of victims of gun violence.

That said, adding even more gun restrictions would is an added bonus.

@vivify said
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country

In 2021, Only 9 countries had a higher firearm-related death rate than the U.S.

Let's set aside the emotional and mental toll of losing a loved one killed by guns and focus on the immense financial burden it place: the cost of funerals, time off taken from needed to grieve, organize the funeral, h ...[text shortened]... he absolute least we can do is have a way to help cover the cost of hardships caused by guns.

now…replace the word >gun< with >fentanyl<

that is the leading cause of death age 17/50. just trying to see where your priorities are.

@mott-the-hoople said
now…replace the word >gun< with >fentanyl<

that is the leading cause of death age 17/50. just trying to see where your priorities are.

You realize that support for more than one cause at a time is possible, right?