@sh76 saidIt's well documented that companies prefer h1b over domestic applicants. The reason why is mostly compliance, because the company controls their immigration status.
Talented meaning that their skills are useful and difficult to find. I don't give a damn if they're really good at walking on their hands.
People could be very talented baristas or janitors, but nobody cares because these are trivial skills that many people can do. We don't need to import baristas. But engineers, mathematicians, scientists, data analysts, etc. We need more of them, not less.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-cognizant-h1b-visas-discriminates-us-workers/?embedded-checkout=true
@wildgrass saidIt's fairly trivial to look up, so guessing is silly. But I tend to think of things in New York dollars, where a national "average" salary gets you a park bench.
What do you think the average is?
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@wildgrass saidAnd because foreigners tend to be less entitled and more subordinate, but yeah.
It's well documented that companies prefer h1b over domestic applicants. The reason why is mostly compliance, because the company controls their immigration status.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-cognizant-h1b-visas-discriminates-us-workers/?embedded-checkout=true
@wildgrass saidAnd because, generally speaking, they didn't grow up in a society of participation trophies and empty adulation and weren't constantly told growing up that the world revolves around them and that their employers' opinions aren't any more valuable than theirs.
Less entitled and more subordinate... because they rely on their employer for immigration status.
@sh76 saidSo you think it's a "problem" that American workers just aren't servile enough?
And because, generally speaking, they didn't grow up in a society of participation trophies and empty adulation and weren't constantly told growing up that the world revolves around them and that their employers' opinions aren't any more valuable than theirs.
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@sh76 saidYou seem to fall into tropes here.
And because, generally speaking, they didn't grow up in a society of participation trophies and empty adulation and weren't constantly told growing up that the world revolves around them and that their employers' opinions aren't any more valuable than theirs.
The republican "policy" debate for H1B visas creating jobs for Americans seems to fall apart if you're now arguing that the American workforce is all lazy and doesn't work anyway.
Of course the capitalist wants the cheapest hardest working labor and the nationalist wants all foreigners out. It's always been about the balance that republicans keep getting horribly wrong.
If the workforce exists in America but the workers are overlooked for foreign recruits, then H1B should be reformed accordingly. But if the workforce doesn't exist then we need to expand this program. The incoming administration wants it both ways, which means nothing will happen.
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@sh76 saidIt is not the same at all and you know it. Jugglers are not in high demand. People with college degrees are. Everyone has talent or at least potential talent. Without an education you would be worthless. I am a talented guitar player, but I have no job playing guitar.
Whatever, dude.
You say tomato, I say tomah-to
Same diff
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/college-educated-immigrants-united-states
Who is coveted more? Educated people or talented people? Educated people.
Vivek used to be against what he supports now. Watch the video. Let Vivek tell you why Vivek is wrong.
Vivek Used To HATE The H-1B Visa Program. Called it slave labor!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y-fq3moAEE0
@no1marauder saidProblem? Not really.
So you think it's a "problem" that American workers just aren't servile enough?
It's simply a reality as to why employers often prefer foreigners.
Anyway, keeping out talented foreigners so that we ensure that American workers have better negotiating leverage against their employers is a bizarre idea.
It's frustrating that some people think total employment is a zero-sum game; that every foreigner who gets a job is taking one from an American worker.
Having more talented foreigners means producing more goods and services, and probably more companies and thus more jobs.
@Metal-Brain saidI don't know what the F your point is.
It is not the same at all and you know it. Jugglers are not in high demand. People with college degrees are. Everyone has talent or at least potential talent. Without an education you would be worthless. I am a talented guitar player, but I have no job playing guitar.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/college-educated-immigrants-united-states
Who is coveted m ...[text shortened]... To HATE The H-1B Visa Program. Called it slave labor!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y-fq3moAEE0
@sh76 saidWell, I don't think it's a reality though it's quite possibly a stereotype that most employers believe.
Problem? Not really.
It's simply a reality as to why employers often prefer foreigners.
Anyway, keeping out talented foreigners so that we ensure that American workers have better negotiating leverage against their employers is a bizarre idea.
It's frustrating that some people think total employment is a zero-sum game; that every foreigner who gets a job is taking one f ...[text shortened]... foreigners means producing more goods and services, and probably more companies and thus more jobs.
I agree with your last paragraph though.
@sh76 saidPut away your Space Laser. Throwing a tantrum won't help anything.
It's fairly trivial to look up, so guessing is silly. But I tend to think of things in New York dollars, where a national "average" salary gets you a park bench.
This is how you remind me of AJ - you're living in a bubble of relative affluence and it affects your ability to understand the financial realities of the majority of your fellow citizens. You think anyone can pay ten thousand dollars or more for an education and then expect six figure incomes. That's not how it works in the real world no matter how many times you and AJ insist otherwise.
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@Metal-Brain saidWell if Vivek said it, it HAS to be true. Maybe in another universe......
Yes you do. Play dumb much?
Vivek once said it was slave labor. Did you watch the video or not?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y-fq3moAEE0
https://www.adl.org/resources/article/bitchute-hotbed-hate
A HOTBED of hate. You have this twisted talent to find the most hateful and biased sites.