Hegseth BRAGGED he killed helpless survivers

@Rajk999 said
Imagine criminals who follow no law, demanding that others follow the law, and the fools support them. So far you support, terrorists, drug runners, Islamic extremists, illegal criminals who murder Americans ... what else?

Oh yeah, I also support Trump getting BILLIONS from crypto coins which is really influence money, give Trump a few mil, your problems are his problems.
Yep, I love ALL of it.

@Metal-Brain said
You mean a fake investigation. Don't you know how things really work?

We'll see, if it ever gets started.

@sonhouse said
And after the boat is blown up and two dudes on a raft after getting thrown in the water are going to worry about whether they have weapons? And killing them with a missile a mile away, yep, really heroic attack.

They WERE the bad guys, after all.

@Rajk999 said
Imagine criminals who follow no law, demanding that others follow the law, and the fools support them. So far you support, terrorists, drug runners, Islamic extremists, illegal criminals who murder Americans ... what else?

And you support murderers.

@Cliff-Mashburn said
They WERE the bad guys, after all.

Alleged bad guys.

Where are the drugs?

Let's see some proof!

@Suzianne said
Alleged bad guys.

Where are the drugs?

Let's see some proof!

Yeah a four outboard engine "cigarette boat" screaming across the ocean, with two people and a bunch of packages ,,, that's something you see every daay.
Were they UPS drivers?

@Cliff-Mashburn said
Yeah a four outboard engine "cigarette boat" screaming across the ocean, with two people and a bunch of packages ,,, that's something you see every daay.
Were they UPS drivers?

Why don't you want survivors of these supposed crimes?

Don't want them talking?

Don't want to explain away why there's no drugs?

@Cliff-Mashburn said
They WERE the bad guys, after all.

You mean because Trump said so. What happened to the idea of interdiction and boarding a boat, threaten them with destruction if they don't obey Navy boarding orders and oh, lets see, ARRESTING them, taking them to court, find the BOSSES.
Do you seriously think a few fishing boats lost will stop the Cartels from just threatening yet ANOTHER family forcing sons to drive those boats, the Cartels could give a rats ass about the lives of their soldiers, they die, tough luck, we got thousands more.

@sonhouse said
You mean because Trump said so. What happened to the idea of interdiction and boarding a boat, threaten them with destruction if they don't obey Navy boarding orders and oh, lets see, ARRESTING them, taking them to court, find the BOSSES.
Do you seriously think a few fishing boats lost will stop the Cartels from just threatening yet ANOTHER family forcing sons to drive thos ...[text shortened]... ould give a rats ass about the lives of their soldiers, they die, tough luck, we got thousands more.

And the thousands more will die driving those boats. Things have quieted down here in the Caribbean, thanks to Trump. Madura is on his Ps and Qs, thanks to Trump. Cartels are losing money, thanks to Trump. No thanks to Biden, who was a pussy.

@sonhouse said
Survivors of an alleged drug runner boat, killing 2 survivors and Hegseth Bragged about it. Then when the itshay hits the fan NOW it is fake news.
Even REPUBLICANS are aghast at such an agregious LITERAL war crimes and there WILL be an oversight committee investigation.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5626054-defense-secretary-defends-drug-strikes/

This is EXACTLY ...[text shortened]... boat or boats involved.
So tell me, how many tons of drugs did they interdict for those 80 DEATHS?

I don't need to read that, to ask this question. Is the USA in a drug war?

Secondly, while I have your undivided, do you thiink that the taxpayers of rhe United States of America should pay for the healthcare of illegal alien invaders?

Oh, and thirdly , if Kamala were president, thus not having increased oil production as Trump did, do you think gas would be at $2.95/gallon as reported this morning?. Would it be costing us and your granny more or less?? How much more?

Oh and could you start a thread on the Minnesota fraud of Tim Walz?? He does not take responsibility.... have you seen the real news?
My question is, did you and your cohorts do extreme harm to us Trump supporters by trying to put him as the 2nd most powerfuo an in the free world. A fraudster?
Are you going to DARE...DARE.....to write any more shate about epstein?

NOW you can glean how boring your topics are.

@AverageJoe1 said
I don't need to read that, to ask this question. Is the USA in a drug war?

Secondly, while I have your undivided, do you thiink that the taxpayers of rhe United States of America should pay for the healthcare of illegal alien invaders?

Oh, and thirdly , if Kamala were president, thus not having increased oil production as Trump did, do you think gas would be at $2 ...[text shortened]... E...DARE.....to write any more shate about epstein?

NOW you can glean how boring your topics are.

This is one of those times when Sonhouse will not answer AvJoe questions, but instead write about Trump. They are easy questions We are in a drug war but he will not say we are. That is very strange
I guess nobody will write on this subject which says a lot

@AverageJoe1 said
I don't need to read that, to ask this question. Is the USA in a drug war?

Secondly, while I have your undivided, do you thiink that the taxpayers of rhe United States of America should pay for the healthcare of illegal alien invaders?

Oh, and thirdly , if Kamala were president, thus not having increased oil production as Trump did, do you think gas would be at $2 ...[text shortened]... E...DARE.....to write any more shate about epstein?

NOW you can glean how boring your topics are.

Spectacularly off-topic.

@MickeyD said
This is one of those times when Sonhouse will not answer AvJoe questions, but instead write about Trump. They are easy questions We are in a drug war but he will not say we are. That is very strange
I guess nobody will write on this subject which says a lot

I suppose you could tell your pal that if he wants to talk about those things, perhaps he can start his own thread about it, instead of sidetracking this thread, distracting from it.

@Rajk999 said
And the thousands more will die driving those boats. Things have quieted down here in the Caribbean, thanks to Trump. Madura is on his Ps and Qs, thanks to Trump. Cartels are losing money, thanks to Trump. No thanks to Biden, who was a pussy.

It is in FACT the COAST GUARD stopping massive shipments, the last haul was TWENTY FOUR TONS, 48 THOSAND POUNDS of cocaine.
So 20 boats so far, what, say couple hundred pounds IF TRUE, TOTAL hall some 2 tons. Coast Guard got TEN TIMES that much in ONE raid.
REAL FKING EFFICIENT.
AND the entire sad episode are probably ALL illegal orders.
And BTW, GERMAN officers caught and tried for the EXACT type of war crime, murdering unarmed combatants, those people usually held as POW's but instead were shot to death totally unarmed, unable to defend themselves and THOSE Germans GOT THE FKING DEATH PENALTY.

@AverageJoe1 said
I don't need to read that, to ask this question. Is the USA in a drug war?

Secondly, while I have your undivided, do you thiink that the taxpayers of rhe United States of America should pay for the healthcare of illegal alien invaders?

Oh, and thirdly , if Kamala were president, thus not having increased oil production as Trump did, do you think gas would be at $2 ...[text shortened]... E...DARE.....to write any more shate about epstein?

NOW you can glean how boring your topics are.

You are saying it is just FINE to go SCREW due process, or maybe like INTERDICT boats, SEARCHING them, THEN if they find drugs, for one thing they can PROVE those were drugs on those boats and interrogate the prisoners to find the BIG bosses.
Destroying boats Trump just SAYS were drug boats WITH ZERO PROOF, ALL ILLEGAL and now Hegseth is throwing his admiral who complied with HEGSETHS orders which instead of killing two survivors, you pick them up and in wartime make them safe but POW's.

But YOU, you take Trumps word for it with ZERO ATTEMPTS to even ASK for proof.
We all want to know if you actually ENJOY having your tongue ziplocked to Trumps ass, like the taste?

"There is no verifiable evidence that drug trafficking has significantly decreased as a direct result of the U.S. military strikes on small boats. Law enforcement experts and officials state the strikes have little to no impact on the overall flow of drugs into the U.S.

Key points regarding the impact of these strikes:
No evidence provided: The Trump administration has not publicly provided evidence, such as the type or quantity of drugs, that was on the boats before they were destroyed.

Minimal impact on cartels: Veterans of U.S. counternarcotics operations argue that the people on the boats are typically low-level workers or fishermen who are easily and quickly replaced by drug trafficking organizations.

Record seizures continued: The U.S. Coast Guard announced a record 225 metric tons of cocaine seizures in the same year the strikes began, indicating a high volume of drugs was still being moved through traditional interdiction methods. This suggests that the supply has not dried up.

Demand is the driver: Experts note that high demand for drugs and robust supply chains mean that simply stopping some shipments has limited deterrent effect.
Alternative trafficking methods: Fentanyl, which is responsible for the majority of U.S. overdose deaths, is primarily manufactured in Mexico and smuggled across the U.S. border by land in vehicles, not via small boats in the Caribbean.

Intelligence loss: Traditional interdiction by the Coast Guard allows for the capture of smugglers, who provide valuable intelligence on cartel operations and routes. Blowing up boats results in the loss of this intelligence, which experts say is a more effective long-term strategy.

In summary, experts largely agree that the military strikes have not had a measurable impact on decreasing the overall amount of drugs trafficked into the United States."

Did you get the part where our Coast Guard took 225 TONS, 450 THOUSAND pounds of cocaine a year.

All this CLEARLY illegal action is just for SHOW, they have not proved a single OUNCE of drugs were on those boats and at least ONE was a working fishing boat.

At least read the part about LOSS OF INTELLIGENCE.

Of course the REAL loss of intelligence was making a taking head FOX host DRUNKARD DEFSEC.

History is not going to be kind to Trump's so called governing.