22 Sep 05
Originally posted by Mephisto2It's great that these forums are full of underage tw@s!
Miss Universe is about 17.
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22 Sep 05
Originally posted by Nietzsche1844The universe is actuallly expanding, science has proved this; if you can imagine time rewinding the universe would have come from a big-bang.
Science gives us a number about the age of the Universe.But my feeling is that the Universe is infinite.There are no time and space for the Universe.....no border lines.
If the universe was infinitely old then all of the stars would have burnt out and died by now, people who say suns are recycled are mistaken as the material suns are made out of are not changed back into hydrogen from helium. Suns can only be 'recycled' so many times before the atoms are too large.
22 Sep 05
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Originally posted by Bad wolfhears the deal about fusion: When you look at the energy
The universe is actuallly expanding, science has proved this; if you can imagine time rewinding the universe would have come from a big-bang.
If the universe was infinitely old then all of the stars would have burnt out and died by now, people who say suns are recycled are mistaken as the material suns are made out of are not changed back into hydrogen from helium. Suns can only be 'recycled' so many times before the atoms are too large.
charts of fusion vs fission, both kinds poop out at iron. fusion and
fission will eventually lead to iron which is kind of the poop of the
energy world, can't get much energy from iron with fission OR fusion
so iron is the dump heap of creation.
As to the age of the universe, OUR universe is pretty well pegged
at around 14 billion years, a bit less maybe. More is being discovered
every day about the cosmic background radiation, now they are
analyzing the tiny differances in tempurature in terms of harmonic
series which will define where to aim the next round of cosmology
theories. It seems to me since the universe was supposed to come
from a big bang, there had to be SOMETHING there before that
'time' to allow the big bang to happen in the first place, that in itself
says there is more to the universe than that which we happen to see in
oiur admittedly powerful telescopes. The future of telescopes points
to more and more mirrors separated by greater and greater
distances emulating what we have already learned from
radio astronomy: the more the better. The farther separated,
the more the resolution of the resultant matrix of telescopes.
What we figured out decades ago about how to do that at radio
frequencies is now being done at the much harder to achieve
visible bands. The next step is to do the same thing but in space.
multiple telescopes here on earth have the big problem of
atmospheric turbulance to overcome and we are doing it but
its a tedious solution. A much better solution is to put multiple
scopes in space and the atmosphere problem goes away, ala Hubble.
With multiples working together you can achieve truly incredible
resolving power hundreds or thousands of times greater than Hubble.
Of course all that doesn't help the study of the cosmic background
radiation because that stuff is in the microwave RF band but for
finding earthlike planets, analyzing what the atmosphere is made of,
this is the prime power of these next generation scopes. Also refining
the distance to galaxies and such at much greater distances because
if you can resolve standard candle stars in galaxies say, 1 billion light
years away (now we can only do that for galaxies under about
100 million light years away) then estimates of the age of the
universe gets progressively more accurate and will help fine tune
the quest for the theory of everything (TOE)
Personally I think our universe represents only a local bubble in
a possibly infinite bigger universe(the multiverse) with many
bubbles each one a whole universe of its own, linked by higher
dimensions. For now thats just speculation but it makes sense to me.
22 Sep 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672God is restricted to this universe?
I liked everything up to the last paragraph.
(Here comes the spirituality forum.)
There is no suggestion whatsoever that there is a multiverse. This is the ultimate unknowable thing. I believe in God, and I believe that some divine hand called into existence that infinitesmally small band of energy that became our universe. Or that that energy ...[text shortened]... about what lies beyond. I think for humanity's sake we should stick to our own damn existence.
22 Sep 05
Originally posted by Nietzsche1844My universe began on Ocober 14th, 1938, which makes it 67 years old in a couple of weeks. I'm not certain any other universes exist beyond my universe, but I suppose they might.
Science gives us a number about the age of the Universe.But my feeling is that the Universe is infinite.There are no time and space for the Universe.....no border lines.
22 Sep 05
Originally posted by LordOfTheChessboardMe too... in fact I'm hoping it starts up some time soon 'cos I've left my earthly shell double parked and I'm just about out of change for the meter.
Of course there's no way of knowing how old the universe is. Personaly I think it has no beginning or end.
23 Sep 05
I dont see what's the deal about this Big Bang theory.
When we point our telescopes heaven-wards, and see that all stars, galaxies are shying away from each other we conclude that they must have been together sometime at a singularity.
Fine, so let there be a Bang. But why cant there be other Bangs (in the same universe)? The others might be spaced out, and light from them has not reached us yet. Perhaps debris from the other bangs will eventually hit us and cause a few more Bangs!
But all that wont explain how the universe came about. That is, where does the chain of cause-n-effect originate. That is, how did something come about without it having a cause.
Our definition of "time" is tied up with the cause-n-effect phenomenon. That is, if A causes B, then A must have preceded B. Perhaps, there is another way to look at "time", which will prove that it doesnt have a start and an end. After "Earth is not flat" we need a "Time is not flat" theory.