Originally posted by Raw760'What is it like to be that rock over there?
[b]What would the universe 'look like', if there were no consciousness?
It would look exactly as it does now.
How much influence does consciousness have on celestial matter?
None whatsoever.
Is it possible for there to even be a universe without a consciousness to observe it?
Yes, Absolutely definately maybe. (I thought we ...[text shortened]... ge.villanova.edu/paul.livingston/Experience%20and%20Structure.pdf
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Well, I don't know the whole answer, but, unlike the rock, I know a lot of it.
It is like being about a foot in diameter.
It's like weighing a few pounds.
It is like being made mostly of silicon (I think).
It is like resting on a muddy patch of earth with a slight slope.
It's sometimes like being pushed around, thrown up into the air, and falling to earth with a thud.
But never like knowing any of this is happening.'
Aaron Sloman
The University of Birmingham
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowThings only have a probability of happening until a measurement
This is like the tree falls with no one around argument on a cosmic scale. Why should we think so much of ourselves. Things happen whether we are aware of them or not.
is made.
The tree falling with no-one around argument is very similar to
schrodinger's cat or Einsteins thought experiment.
Until an event has been observed it remains a probability. It is the
very act of observation that defines our universe.
That makes us pretty important on a cosmic scale.
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Originally posted by Thequ1ckThe whole point of schrodinger's cat was that Erwin Schrodinger was trying to show that this whole thing was ridiculous. He was trying to say that a cat cannot be some mix between a dead state and an alive state until it is observed, that it is one or the other before we see it just as much as after.
Things only have a probability of happening until a measurement
is made.
The tree falling with no-one around argument is very similar to
schrodinger's cat or Einsteins thought experiment.
Until an event has been observed it remains a probability. It is the
very act of observation that defines our universe.
That makes us pretty important on a cosmic scale.
