"Inoculate your kids against socialism!! All you have to do is have them clean the bathroom! Pay them $10, and then take away $7 and give it to their sibling who would not help!"
There are several people on this forum who were raised under this premise, and still are!!!! They have written about it!!! Jesus. I cannot imagine. I'm glad I saw this, because I was about to punish my child heavily to be a capitalist until I saw this! Now I can do it with ease, but my child will not be too happy! Good!!! Tough love! He'll thank me when he starts making his pie!!!!! His own pie. Not part of someone else's .
@averagejoe1 saidYou should teach them about the advantages of the far right, that punishes those least able to fight back.
"Inoculate your kids against socialism!! All you have to do is have them clean the bathroom! Pay them $10, and then take away $7 and give it to their sibling who would not help!"
There are several people on this forum who were raised under this premise, and still are!!!! They have written about it!!! Jesus. I cannot imagine. I'm glad I saw this, because I ...[text shortened]... ove! He'll thank me when he starts making his pie!!!!! His own pie. Not part of someone else's .
Nothing is too low for you guys, is it?
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@averagejoe1 saidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_his_contribution
"Inoculate your kids against socialism!! All you have to do is have them clean the bathroom! Pay them $10, and then take away $7 and give it to their sibling who would not help!"
"To each according to his contribution" is a principle of distribution considered to be one of the defining features of socialism. It refers to an arrangement whereby individual compensation is representative of one's contribution to the social product.
From each according to his capacity, to each according to his works.
@vivify saidThis is from the 1820s, from the French socialist Saint-Simonists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_his_contribution
"To each according to his contribution" is a principle of distribution considered to be one of the defining features of socialism. It refers to an arrangement whereby individual compensation is representative of one's contribution to the social product.
From each according to his capacity, to each according to his works.
French utopian Étienne-Gabriel Morelly, in 1755, said, "Every citizen will make his particular contribution to the activities of the community according to his capacity, his talent and his age; it is on this basis that his duties will be determined, in conformity with the distributive laws."
The Plantation Covenant of Guilford, Connecticut, sometimes called the Guilford Covenant, signed on 1 June 1639, stated, "We whose names are herein written, intending by God's gracious permission, to plant ourselves in New England, and if it may be in the southerly part, about Quinpisac [Quinnipiac], we do faithfully promise each for ourselves and families and those that belong to us, that we will, the Lord assisting us, sit down and join ourselves together in one entire plantation and to be helpful to the other in any common work, according to every man's ability and as need shall require, and we promise not to desert or leave each other on the plantation but with the consent of the rest, or the greater part of the company, who have entered into this engagement.
As for our gathering together into a church way and the choice officers and members to be joined together in that way, we do refer ourselves until such time as it shall please God to settle us in our plantation.
In witness whereof we subscribe our hands, this first day of June 1639
My point is, that these are all long before Karl Marx said, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" in 1875.
@suzianne saidThank you for you post.
This is from the 1820s, from the French socialist Saint-Simonists.
French utopian Étienne-Gabriel Morelly, in 1755, said, "Every citizen will make his particular contribution to the activities of the community according to his capacity, his talent and his age; it is on this basis that his duties will be determined, in conformity with the distributive laws."
The Plantat ...[text shortened]... before Karl Marx said, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" in 1875.
Addressing the OP: in a pure socialist society the means of distribution are determined by the collective. This obviously means that members of the collective who want to prevent people not pulling their weight can agree on appropriate safeguards while ensuring the needs of all are met.
The society as a whole will come up with the appropriate remedy since they control the means of production in a socialist model.
@vivify saidYes, until the capitalists gain control of the means of production for a profit, then it all goes to hell.
Thank you for you post.
Addressing the OP: in a pure socialist society the means of distribution are determined by the collective. This obviously means that members of the collective who want to prevent people not pulling their weight can agree on appropriate safeguards while ensuring the needs of all are met.
The society as a whole will come up with the appropriate remedy since they control the means of production in a socialist model.
As you say, it is self-sustaining, until a few come along and want it all for themselves.
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@suzianne saidhttps://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20191212-where-losing-your-job-is-a-good-thing
As you say, it is self-sustaining
Sweden, which is often hailed as one of the best examples of socialism, has job security councils "who pick you up, dust you down and match your skills and ambitions with the market. As a result, Sweden has the best re-employment rates in the developed world."
There is no legitimacy to claims that people won't work in a socialist society.
@averagejoe1 saidWe already live in a socialist country if that is your description of socialism, but most of the pie is going to the wealthy so it is socialism for the wealthy.
"Inoculate your kids against socialism!! All you have to do is have them clean the bathroom! Pay them $10, and then take away $7 and give it to their sibling who would not help!"
There are several people on this forum who were raised under this premise, and still are!!!! They have written about it!!! Jesus. I cannot imagine. I'm glad I saw this, because I ...[text shortened]... ove! He'll thank me when he starts making his pie!!!!! His own pie. Not part of someone else's .
90% of the stimulus package went to the wealthy and it was paid for by the inflation tax which taxes the poor disproportionately more than rich people. It was economic warfare.
Now, why do they call this a capitalist country. It is obviously a plutocracy of socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor. Isn't that fascism?
@averagejoe1 saidYour grasp on socialism is somewhat lacking any grasp at all.
"Inoculate your kids against socialism!! All you have to do is have them clean the bathroom! Pay them $10, and then take away $7 and give it to their sibling who would not help!"
There are several people on this forum who were raised under this premise, and still are!!!! They have written about it!!! Jesus. I cannot imagine. I'm glad I saw this, because I ...[text shortened]... ove! He'll thank me when he starts making his pie!!!!! His own pie. Not part of someone else's .
Indeed, one might comprehend that you’re free falling down a rabbit hole of moronity.
Explain dialectic materialism to us, and we’ll have a proper debate.
@vivify saidI don't understand why you complicate this thread with facts.
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20191212-where-losing-your-job-is-a-good-thing
Sweden, which is often hailed as one of the best examples of socialism, has job security councils "who pick you up, dust you down and match your skills and ambitions with the market. As a result, Sweden has the best re-employment rates in the developed world."
There is no legitimacy to claims that people won't work in a socialist society.
Socialism is made up of one parent who magically conjures money, one child who is put to work by said parent and another child who does nothing but receives a sum of money directly from another worker. That's all the money in this system.
it's a very well thought of illustration, ok? not by joe, obviously, he just saw it in the comments section of probably a ben shapiro video.
@averagejoe1 saidIf anything this is an accidental example of how fox news treats its audience: like children. You tell your child a simple statement that is inherently absurd, something to trigger outrage in their feeble minds. You leave out all the details and the child doesn't go looking for them because obviously he is a child and only listens to their parent (fox news). You repeat that simple statement (which technically might even be true, but for practical reasons is a lie) ad nauseam until the child is indoctrinated.
"Inoculate your kids against socialism!! All you have to do is have them clean the bathroom! Pay them $10, and then take away $7 and give it to their sibling who would not help!"
There are several people on this forum who were raised under this premise, and still are!!!! They have written about it!!! Jesus. I cannot imagine. I'm glad I saw this, because I ...[text shortened]... ove! He'll thank me when he starts making his pie!!!!! His own pie. Not part of someone else's .
@zahlanzi saidExactly. This is, after all, the purpose of the Big Book of Republican Fairy Tales (and its spin-off, Campfire Horror Tales for Young Republicans).
If anything this is an accidental example of how fox news treats its audience: like children. You tell your child a simple statement that is inherently absurd, something to trigger outrage in their feeble minds. You leave out all the details and the child doesn't go looking for them because obviously he is a child and only listens to their parent (fox news). You repeat that ...[text shortened]... might even be true, but for practical reasons is a lie) ad nauseam until the child is indoctrinated.