@averagejoe1 saidWhy didn't you take my question seriously?
But why cannot my question be taken seriously?
If I got Vivify to ask the question, or my cook, would that make a difference.
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@averagejoe1 saidWhat do you think taxes do? They're used to help pay for the police protection, roads, military, etc. that you enjoy. If you somehow can't work due to a tragic accident or poor health should the government just leave you do to die?
Should a hard working well-to-do citizen share, or somehow have to distribute, the money he has to someone that he might not even know?
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@shavixmir
A PROPER DEBATE! ! ! !
I can't find a single post anywhere on this forum in which you participated in even the tiniest way with a proper debate! Not a single post, not ever!
You just sit in your little hideaway somewhere and hurl profanity and insults.
Proper debate...LOL! ! !
@liljo saidBe fair. Look at Vivify above who brings up taxes in my scenario of someone who obviously pays his taxes...who is being asked to give someone else money. (to spend, pay his bills....and as a matter of fact, pay his taxes, for god sakes).
@shavixmir
A PROPER DEBATE! ! ! !
I can't find a single post anywhere on this forum in which you participated in even the tiniest way with a proper debate! Not a single post, not ever!
You just sit in your little hideaway somewhere and hurl profanity and insults.
Proper debate...LOL! ! !
Who mentioned taxes, though? Not me. So Vivify once again joins y'all's mob to go hyena-like after AvJoe. Making it murky, indeed. Curious, indeed. Taxes and Roads? Jesus.
You are all scared to give us the only answer to my premise. Oh, well, maybe I am good for entertainment.
Truly, there is a lot of pontificating (Marauder, maybe?) on this forum, and silliness, and everything in between. Sometimes boring. So I am simply trying to put simple quizzes, curious scenarios, to bat around. I sure wish y'all would. No on ever asks me a question, you spend your time posturing. For what ??!
Edit: Profanity? You have me confused with another poster. I detest it.
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@vivify saidI think you are on the wrong thread, this has nothing to do with the point of this thread. May I phrase it thusly, then. How does the sibling who did not help get paid/money, and why? For what?
What do you think taxes do? They're used to help pay for the police protection, roads, military, etc. that you enjoy. If you somehow can't work due to a tragic accident or poor health should the government just leave you do to die?
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@averagejoe1 saidWhy did you pick me to reply with this? I was replying to Shavixmer's talk of "debate", something he very obviously knows nothing about.
Be fair. Look at Vivify above who brings up taxes in my scenario of someone who obviously pays his taxes...who is being asked to give someone else money. (to spend, pay his bills....and as a matter of fact, pay his taxes, for god sakes).
Who mentioned taxes, though? Not me. So Vivify once again joins y'all's mob to go hyena-like after AvJoe. Making it murky, indeed ...[text shortened]... turing. For what ??!
Edit: Profanity? You have me confused with another poster. I detest it.
Please don't include me in "yall's mob". All those "likes" you get--those are from me. I'm on YOUR side.
@averagejoe1 saidSince capitalist nations also have people who don't want to work your question has no point.
I think you are on the wrong thread, this has nothing to do with the point of this thread. May I phrase it thusly, then. How does the sibling who did not help get paid/money, and why? For what?
Even so I already answered your question on the first page by pointing out Sweden.
@liljo saidMea culpa, I feel like a juggler sometimes with these fellers, overlooked your intent. I got so many enemies, of course I know you are a respected member of the Order of the Sense. How 'bout the irony of Shav saying I hurl profanity and insults. If he were not so emotional when I have him in a corner, he would have thought through that insane comment.
Why did you pick me to reply with this? I was replying to Shavixmer's talk of "debate", something he very obviously knows nothing about.
Please don't include me in "yall's mob". All those "likes" you get--those are from me. I'm on YOUR side.
I think they are all in a corner. I have never seen so much dancing in my life. Do you think our Forum will ever win any debate awards?
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@vivify saidAnd how about this one. They have actually gone overseas (Sweden) and naming countries to answer the simple little question about some guy in his living room in Hoboken New Jersey. Hahaha it is amazing. Truly. And he think he has answered the question. I just can’t see it in there. Said something about the developed world?!?? Geez. I can change the premise to a home in a village in Nigeria.!!!! The father there tells them to ‘clean up your sleeping mats!” No difference. I really hate winning these threads by default. Note Marauder didn’t venture into a losing battle!
Since capitalist nations also have people who don't want to work your question has no point.
Even so I already answered your question on the first page by pointing out Sweden.
@averagejoe1 saidYou are constantly talking about giving money to people.
I'm a man you just met in a bar, Shav. You say to me, "I don't make a lot of money, I'm just not programmed to excel. But that feller over there tells me you are a millionaire . Would you give me some of your money?"
How would dialectic materialism apply to you and me talking in a bar, maybe with a few folks sitting nearby wondering what my response should be, o ...[text shortened]... r this premise. Watching you guys skip over issues is like watching dancers in a minstrel show.
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That is not socialism. Capitalism hands money to people too.
@averagejoe1 saidThere is only one garbage bag to be taken out and two children.
I think you are on the wrong thread, this has nothing to do with the point of this thread. May I phrase it thusly, then. How does the sibling who did not help get paid/money, and why? For what?
There is only one lawn to be mowed.
The dishwasher washes all the dishes much better than the second child could (this is a reference to automation, because i know you are too stupid to understand)
The parent doesn't want the second child to go without an allowance when it's not his fault the parent doesn't have chores to do.
It's not the second child's fault the parent in your example pays the first child 3 dollars, it's the parent's fault for underpaying the first child then blaming the second child and working the two kids against one another.
@zahlanzi saidRe-read the OP. "...and give it to the sibling who Would-Not-Work". The subjects of your post do not fit into that category.
There is only one garbage bag to be taken out and two children.
There is only one lawn to be mowed.
The dishwasher washes all the dishes much better than the second child could (this is a reference to automation, because i know you are too stupid to understand)
The parent doesn't want the second child to go without an allowance when it's not his fault the parent doesn't ...[text shortened]... erpaying the first child then blaming the second child and working the two kids against one another.
So, you must be writing about something else, Zahlanzi. Really poor debating. Unfounded, silly, irrelevant. But nice that you took a stab at an analogy. And I just read your anti-parenting rant on the Drag Men post. You had a rough up-bringing, did you?
Off to a bad start today, are 'ya? You know why? Because you are an emotional bowl of jelly!!!
@averagejoe1 said"Re-read the OP. "...and give it to the sibling who Would-Not-Work". "
Re-read the OP. "...and give it to the sibling who Would-Not-Work". The subjects of your post do not fit into that category.
So, you must be writing about something else, Zahlanzi. Really poor debating. Unfounded, silly, irrelevant. But nice that you took a stab at an analogy. And I just read your anti-parenting rant on the Drag Men post. You had a rough up-b ...[text shortened]... Off to a bad start today, are 'ya? You know why? Because you are an emotional bowl of jelly!!!
I don't give a fuk about the garbage Fox News fed you. The number of people who straight up don't want to work are insignificant and always have been. The myth of the welfare queen was idiotic (and the people that believed it more so) and if I were interested in debating made up scenarios i would go to Spirituality.
Most people want to work. Some can't, for whatever reason. Others can, and they still need help. Because for some reason, we as a society have decided someone attending a board meeting for a multibillion dollar company deserves several hundred or thousand times the compensation that a nurse keeping people alive does. Fine, there are differences in what people make. Accepting that must mean the people who drew the short stick (we need those people) must be taken care of by the people who drew longer sticks (millionaires and billionaires).
@zahlanzi saidOh, please. Once I posted an analogy, where three guys were in some situation, calling for a decision to be made. That idiot that used to post here, Jimm693, came back with “What if one of the guys had only one arm, or was blind?”
"Re-read the OP. "...and give it to the sibling who Would-Not-Work". "
I don't give a fuk about the garbage Fox News fed you. The number of people who straight up don't want to work are insignificant and always have been. The myth of the welfare queen was idiotic (and the people that believed it more so) and if I were interested in debating made up scenarios i would go to ...[text shortened]... people) must be taken care of by the people who drew longer sticks (millionaires and billionaires).
That is what you are doing here. “Some can’t work” ??!? Would you like it if someone skewed your analogy? Obviously , maybe not to you, we have three regular every day siblings. Same makeup.
And where did we mention Fox News ? and your short sticks and board meetings have no place in this simple analogy. Why did you put it there? I would not be surprised if you mentioned one was wearing a blue shirt and one was wearing a red shirt. Absolutely unbelievable . You libs are a real treat.