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If Jan 6 was so bad, why keep lying about it??

If Jan 6 was so bad, why keep lying about it??

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@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
Congress was never in any danger. So you keep parroting what your boss Putin want's you to say.
I guess the hangman deal built up outside was just a prop.
Comrade, you need to move to Russia where you will be given a red carpet welcome and maybe even a TV show like Maria.
Are you claiming congress did not have access to their subway to escape danger?

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@metal-brain said
Are you claiming congress did not have access to their subway to escape danger?
Yes. Yes, we are claiming that. We're also claiming that yes, Anastasia was shot with the rest of her family, and yes, Paul is still alive.

We claim that because our world, apparently unlike yours, was not written by Agatha Christie.

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@metal-brain said
Bannon was charged with contempt of court.
That should make you happy. Why are you complaining?
I’m not complaining though, I don’t care about people being charged or locked up, they’ll just become alt right martyrs.
This is about getting the truth to the electorate about the nature of the danger that the present day GOP and it’s state level affiliates along with trump represent to their freedoms and democratic way of life.

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@metal-brain said
Stop being a drama queen. Congress was never in any danger. They have a subway escape at their convenience.
That’s not the issue, the issue is the fake electors, the phone calls made by trump to state level electors demanding they falsify the count, the constant changing of AGs trying to find one who perjure themselves by claiming the 2020 election was rigged.
The actual violent attempted insurrection on Jan 6th was just a wannabe dictators last desperate bid to overturn the clearly stated will of the US electorate.

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@kevcvs57 said
I’m not complaining though, I don’t care about people being charged or locked up, they’ll just become alt right martyrs.
This is about getting the truth to the electorate about the nature of the danger that the present day GOP and it’s state level affiliates along with trump represent to their freedoms and democratic way of life.
Did Bannon go to jail or did he get away with it? Did Trump pardon him?

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@kevcvs57 said
That’s not the issue, the issue is the fake electors, the phone calls made by trump to state level electors demanding they falsify the count, the constant changing of AGs trying to find one who perjure themselves by claiming the 2020 election was rigged.
The actual violent attempted insurrection on Jan 6th was just a wannabe dictators last desperate bid to overturn the clearly stated will of the US electorate.
Stop lying and being stupid. Trump never asked him to falsify the count. He asked him to find what was theoretically already there.

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@shallow-blue said
Yes. Yes, we are claiming that. We're also claiming that yes, Anastasia was shot with the rest of her family, and yes, Paul is still alive.

We claim that because our world, apparently unlike yours, was not written by Agatha Christie.
"Yes. Yes, we are claiming that"

What is your source of info?

You are also in denial of the farmer protest in your own country. If you had a shred of dignity you would help those farmers and help yourself eat in the future while you are at it.

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@metal-brain said
Of course, it was hearsay. Repeating a false rumor is not a lie. Plausible deniability.
That is why she is not worried about a perjury conviction. The 1/6 commission is shameful for allowing hearsay BS to be publicized though.

The purpose of this 1/6 commission is to re enforce the confirmation bias of those that already want to believe it. It isn't going to change people's minds about it.
Right. It's not lying though, and nothing in the article suggests that anyone is lying under oath. The thread title is quite misleading in that sense.

But this testimony did force the testimony of her alleged source, Pat Cipollone, who was his WH legal counsel and supposedly urged Trump to call of the mob on 1/6. That was the goal all along, to pressure corroborating sources who were not coming forward voluntarily to testify. He can either verify or deny her claims. I wonder if Trump will issue a statement to the effect of "Who? I barely knew that guy, maybe said hi to him a few times. He's a nobody."

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@metal-brain said
"Yes. Yes, we are claiming that"

What is your source of info?
My source of info is me not being an imbecile.
You are also in denial of the farmer protest in your own country. If you had a shred of dignity you would help those farmers and help yourself eat in the future while you are at it.

Whereas you are.

I'm not even going to debate this with you further. I know these people personally, you do not. You and rumble are simply wrong, and always will be. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be an adult.

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@shallow-blue said
My source of info is me not being an imbecile.
You are also in denial of the farmer protest in your own country. If you had a shred of dignity you would help those farmers and help yourself eat in the future while you are at it.

Whereas you are.

I'm not even going to debate this with you further. I know these people personally, you do not. You and rum ...[text shortened]... e are simply wrong, and always will be. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you will be an adult.
Are you in denial of what is happening in your own country?
Your farmers are livid. Why are you ignoring them when they feed you?

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@kevcvs57 said
That’s not the issue, the issue is the fake electors, the phone calls made by trump to state level electors demanding they falsify the count, the constant changing of AGs trying to find one who perjure themselves by claiming the 2020 election was rigged.
The actual violent attempted insurrection on Jan 6th was just a wannabe dictators last desperate bid to overturn the clearly stated will of the US electorate.
It's the invisible ignorance fallacy.

Remember Russia and "no collusion"? Yeah, but also this ignores dozens of people were indicted on charges or plead guilty to crimes related to Trump campaign involvement in Russia's election interference efforts that were uncovered during the Mueller investigation.

So I suppose now with Jan. 6 if you focus the attention on something that's somewhat subjective and difficult to prove or disprove (like "were the congressmen ever in mortal danger?" ) then it's easy to ignore that weapon-wielding protestors inside the capitol building were actively disrupting an election certification, and the army of Trump lawyers trying to falsify election results, and the hundreds of millions of donated dollars that were supposed to fund legal efforts but were spent on other things, and the fact that everyone in Trump's inner circle admitted under sworn testimony that they all knew the "rigged election" narrative was BS. Easy to ignore because many of the protesters were "peaceful".

I don't think any amount of argument will convince these folks they were duped by Trump's cult. They want to believe the election was stolen, and so any and all effort to block that stolen election will always be justified.

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@Metal-Brain
Hey PUTIN LOVER, Trump said FIND ME those votes.
He was OBVIOUSLY trying to pressure the dude to violate election law.
But you knew that already but just use the big lie to try to get a known criminal back in office so you can have Putin back in charge of the US again.

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@mott-the-hoople said
only a fool would believe this
Then, you must believe it.

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@kevcvs57 said
That’s not the issue, the issue is the fake electors, the phone calls made by trump to state level electors demanding they falsify the count, the constant changing of AGs trying to find one who perjure themselves by claiming the 2020 election was rigged.
The actual violent attempted insurrection on Jan 6th was just a wannabe dictators last desperate bid to overturn the clearly stated will of the US electorate.
Had Clark taken command and declared 'irregularities,' and
Pence suspended the count, martial law declared, who knows....
It was closer than mot people realize.

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@metal-brain said
Are you in denial of what is happening in your own country?
Your farmers are livid. Why are you ignoring them when they feed you?
Wrong, wrong and wrong.