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@wildgrass said
Nevermind I realized that newt gingrich was having an affair while he impeached Clinton for having an affair, and every single Democrat president in the last 45 years get better grades for limiting government spending than Republicans.

Republicans principles are a myth.
are you libs ever truthful?
clinton was not impeached for having an affair.


@AverageJoe1 said
Going up, due to government (Biden ) programs that Trump is trying to reverse. Are you messing with Average Joe?? DOGE. Do you remember the Trump program DOGE, he implemented to save billions. He squashed YOUR (Biden's) wasteful spending. It is all easy to google, I am not going to write about it. You know it is Trump's intent to make the USA rich. He has garner ...[text shortened]... he same time TELLS these countries what he is doing, puts it out there, and they fall like dominoes.
If trump reversed Bidens spending then spending should be going down currently. But it's going up a lot faster now than while Biden was president because of all Trump's new spending programs.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
are you libs ever truthful?
clinton was not impeached for having an affair.
Yeah nice try it's on page 1 of the 105,000 word starr report. They subpoenaed a sitting president in order to ask him about a steamy BJ.

Y'all have your panties in a bunch over Russia helping trump win, forget how dumb and petty that republican witch hunt was in 1998.


@wildgrass said
If trump reversed Bidens spending then spending should be going down currently. But it's going up a lot faster now than while Biden was president because of all Trump's new spending programs.
You are wrong. To say it is so simple that while we have new expenses every day from various sources, that the budget reductions by Trump would cause them to go down is childish.


@AverageJoe1 said
You are wrong. To say it is so simple that while we have new expenses every day from various sources, that the budget reductions by Trump would cause them to go down is childish.
So sorry for assuming a budget reduction would decrease the budget.

Y'all are so naive. Trump's building an extremely expensive government surveillance state in front of your eyes and you just pretend it's the normal cost of government.

$200 billion more year over year than Biden in his first 100 days. Not cool.


@wildgrass said
So sorry for assuming a budget reduction would decrease the budget.

Y'all are so naive. Trump's building an extremely expensive government surveillance state in front of your eyes and you just pretend it's the normal cost of government.

$200 billion more year over year than Biden in his first 100 days. Not cool.
Has to get worse cleaning up the crap before we can turn the corner. Grow up before you poison the minds of Sue and Sonhouse.

I doin't know about a 'surveillance system', do a thread, with substantive backup, and you and Sonhouse can enlighten us on it. You are so off base,,,,,are you a Trump Dictator kiind of guy? A wasted mind, i fear. I have a feeling that you have missed the Trump train.


@wildgrass said
Yeah nice try it's on page 1 of the 105,000 word starr report. They subpoenaed a sitting president in order to ask him about a steamy BJ.

Y'all have your panties in a bunch over Russia helping trump win, forget how dumb and petty that republican witch hunt was in 1998.
He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice during Paula Jones trial.


@Mott-The-Hoople said
He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice during Paula Jones trial.
The 'perjury' and obstruction was all about the affair.


@congruent said
Current MAGA is MAGA in name only.

You’re hitting on something a lot of people have noticed: the “principles” Republicans claimed to uphold were often more rhetorical weapons than genuine convictions.

On morality: Newt Gingrich, Bob Livingston, and other GOP leaders were having their own affairs while leading the charge to impeach Clinton for lying about his. That dou ...[text shortened]... nt of identity and grievance — where hypocrisy doesn’t matter as long as you’re on the “right side.”
Great post. The mental math that Republicans have to do to convince themselves that they're still in favor of limited government is astounding.


@AverageJoe1 said
Has to get worse cleaning up the crap before we can turn the corner. Grow up before you poison the minds of Sue and Sonhouse.

I doin't know about a 'surveillance system', do a thread, with substantive backup, and you and Sonhouse can enlighten us on it. You are so off base,,,,,are you a Trump Dictator kiind of guy? A wasted mind, i fear. I have a feeling that you have missed the Trump train.
I don't know how it's possible to spend $200 billion more than Biden did over the same 100 day period and still call yourself a small government conservative. It's just not.


@wildgrass said
I don't know how it's possible to spend $200 billion more than Biden did over the same 100 day period and still call yourself a small government conservative. It's just not.
1. A man already convicted of sexual assault and suspected of raping underage girls wants you to believe a convicted sex-trafficker, instead of the victims, that nothing "inappropriate" happened at Jeffrey's pedo-palace.

2. An ex-heroin addict with a brain worm wants to prosecute medical doctors who prescribe vaccines.

3. Sending the military to 'police' a city (DC) where violent crime has gone down for three years running.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/dailycrime

Those three points alone tell you everything you need to know about degenerate morals and government over-reach in the current administration. I'll leave aside economic mismanagement ...


@wildgrass said
All Republicans can argue in return is that Democrats are worse on these fronts but even that's not true.

Just the other day, former speaker of the house Kevin McCarthy admitted on air that he lost his job because the party wanted him to cover up matt gaetz sex crimes. Pedophilia is a crime that Republicans in Congress are guilty of committing and/ or covering up. This ...[text shortened]... blished and accepted within the party. The same party that impeached a president for a legal affair.
The same party that embraced the rhetoric claiming that Hillary was running a pedophile ring from the basement of a DC pizza place. That the Democrats were holding secret blood rituals and cannibalizing children.

To say, "hey, at least we're not THAT bad" is a pretty low bar.


@wildgrass said
The 'perjury' and obstruction was all about the affair.
Yes, but one can have an immoral affair and still NOT perjure or obstruct justice. You are yet another lib who cannot close a post.
You should say that "Pres had an affair, not good. Not illegal, either. He could have probably sailed if he had admitted it and gone back to business. BUT the slimey fool lied his ass about it, amounting to perjury, and in doing so, obstructed justice".
A nice touch would be, guys, I cannot stand associating with slime and perjury, I will now be a republican.


@AverageJoe1 said
Yes, but one can have an immoral affair and still NOT perjure or obstruct justice. You are yet another lib who cannot close a post.
You should say that "Pres had an affair, not good. Not illegal, either. He could have probably sailed if he had admitted it and gone back to business. BUT the slimey fool lied his ass about it, amounting to perjury, and in doing so, obs ...[text shortened]... touch would be, guys, I cannot stand associating with slime and perjury, I will now be a republican.
Of course perjury is bad, Trump's goons do it all the time too

But there was an expensive investigation by a special prosecutor, and Clinton was subpoenaed at taxpayers expense to speak about an extramarital affair?

Come on man. At least the Russia investigation was about a serious issue.


@wildgrass said
Of course perjury is bad, Trump's goons do it all the time too

But there was an expensive investigation by a special prosecutor, and Clinton was subpoenaed at taxpayers expense to speak about an extramarital affair?

Come on man. At least the Russia investigation was about a serious issue.
""Yeah nice try it's on page 1 of the 105,000 word starr report. They subpoenaed a sitting president in order to ask him about a steamy BJ.""

You leave the issue again, just like Sue did when saying my post was about comparing jews with criminals, when it was about comparing Hitler to Trump. Amazing y'all don't get issues. That is the first insruction in law school, right next to understanding the diff in a right and a privilege. Libs DEFINITELY do't get that one. Do you have a Right to my stuff? Do you have a Privilege?
Here, YOU said the subpoena was about sex, and Mott points out perjury and obstruction. A bit too much tap dancing here. They would hardly get after him on a national level for an affair. Would they? Maybe I'm wrong.