@no1marauder saidYes, Donald Trump is actively appealing his 34 felony convictions for falsifying business records in New York.
Was he convicted of a crime? Yes or no?
Were the vast majority of people you call "illegal aliens" convicted of a crime? Yes or no?
So who should we call "illegal"?
Will you answer those questions?
If you create.34 fraudulent business records, that's 34 crimes as the jury found.
It is under appeal, so I will not bother comparing his crime to serious crimes. Further, if he wins on appeal, then we will have to go all the way back and undo all of your posts so I’m gonna just wait on this one.
Meanwhile, get back to why Obama was able to kill people left and right and you do not like it when Trump kills people left and right.
Or, field this one for us… Biden told everyone that there was no way to close the border(which means he was admitting it was open) without congressional approval. Trump has closed the border without congressional approval.
Which is the better president… could Kamala have done it? So many unanswered questions libs don’t answer questions. Why don’t you make up a question and answer it🤪🤪🤪
@no1marauder saidWhat do you mean who should we call illegal? Anybody that breaks into this country over our borders has committed an illegal act and they are thus illegal, and we call them illegals. I know Shav says no one is illegal , i say they are.. Which one of us is right
Was he convicted of a crime? Yes or no?
Were the vast majority of people you call "illegal aliens" convicted of a crime? Yes or no?
So who should we call "illegal"?
Will you answer those questions?
If you create.34 fraudulent business records, that's 34 crimes as the jury found.
@AverageJoe1 saidStop trying to change the subject.
Yes, Donald Trump is actively appealing his 34 felony convictions for falsifying business records in New York.
It is under appeal, so I will not bother comparing his crime to serious crimes. Further, if he wins on appeal, then we will have to go all the way back and undo all of your posts so I’m gonna just wait on this one.
Meanwhile, get back to why Obama was able ...[text shortened]... unanswered questions libs don’t answer questions. Why don’t you make up a question and answer it🤪🤪🤪
IF you won't call Donald Trump an "illegal" when he is a convicted felon, why do you call people never convicted of any crime "illegals"?
@AverageJoe1 saidNot you because you refuse to be consistent in referring to only some people, not convicted of any crime, as "illegals" while not referring to a convicted felon as an "illegal".
What do you mean who should we call illegal? Anybody that breaks into this country over our borders has committed an illegal act and they are thus illegal, and we call them illegals. I know Shav says no one is illegal , i say they are.. Which one of us is right
@no1marauder saidMy goodness. Illegal is not a legal status for people. Being convicted of a crime does not make the person themselves illegal. It describes the conduct of the doer, not his identity.
Not you because you refuse to be consistent in referring to only some people, not convicted of any crime, as "illegals" while not referring to a convicted felon as an "illegal".
We call aliens who cross over the border illegals as they fit into a situation without lawful immigration status. So they are here illegally just by their existence here. In their case, illegal would be a legal status for lack of a better word. Everyone certainly knows what it means. It is unique unto people illegally her. You are being obtuse again.
Can’t call them citizens. And we cannot call them. aliens because my housekeeper is an alien but she is a legal alien. so I am running out of ideas of what to call these people that should not be here in the first place. I think we could call them anything we want to I could call him a little rabbit.
What should we call them? Seriously. They must be differentiated from the rest of us and our children, they must be highlighted so we will know what we are dealing with. Suzanne says we are all brothers and maybe she would disagree with that, that they should be mixed in real well.
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@AverageJoe1 saidThey're not here illegally until there is a deportation order.
My goodness. Illegal is not a legal status for people. Being convicted of a crime does not make the person themselves illegal. It describes the conduct of the doer, not his identity.
We call aliens who cross over the border illegals as they fit into a situation without lawful immigration status. So they are here illegally just by their existence here. In their ca ...[text shortened]... hers and maybe she would disagree with that, that they should be mixed in real well.
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Many are here legally like those with TPS status and pending asylum cases.
Ever hear the words "undocumented immigrants"?
@no1marauder saidYeah, ironically the political party trying to declare them all illegal is also firing all the judges who sign the deportation orders.
They're not here illegally until there is a deportation order.
Many are here legally like those with TPS status and pending asylum cases.
Ever hear the words "undocumented immigrants"?
@AverageJoe1 saidAre they producing and paying taxes?
No no no We can’t if they are part ‘of our population’.
Would you help us get rid of illegal people that are not!!??
If so: no. Leave them the hell be!
What the hell is wrong with you? Why would you deport functioning, taxes paying people who are working?
Come on. Say it.
@no1marauder saidBut they are w/o lawful
They're not here illegally until there is a deportation order.
Many are here legally like those with TPS status and pending asylum cases.
Ever hear the words "undocumented immigrants"?
Immigration status. Journalists , courts, etc will use ‘undocumented’ or w/o legal status because illegal describes conduct, it does not describe identity.
You just like to argue. If someone comes into my yard uninvited trespassing, would you not think that I could call that person anything I want to call him? I could call him an animal a sea pirate ecosystem, a shovel. I can call him anything I want to as he is illegally, because he is trespassing, on my land. There is no difference in that and the person crossing over into Texas.
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou're definitely using the word "illegal" wrong.
But they are w/o lawful
Immigration status. Journalists , courts, etc will use ‘undocumented’ or w/o legal status because illegal describes conduct, it does not describe identity.
You just like to argue. If someone comes into my yard uninvited trespassing, would you not think that I could call that person anything I want to call him? I could call him an animal a sea pi ...[text shortened]... assing, on my land. There is no difference in that and the person crossing over into Texas.
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@shavixmir saidUuuhhh we don’t know who they are. Up to now, Shav, we approved and vetted them, …..all world citizens including you would love what this country has to offer.
Are they producing and paying taxes?
If so: no. Leave them the hell be!
What the hell is wrong with you? Why would you deport functioning, taxes paying people who are working?
Come on. Say it.
So we pick and choose. “What!? You are wanted for murder in Guadeloupe?!?! Go Back!!!!” Do you follow.? I will go to the vet to buy a dog. I will pass over the diseased ones , the aberrant ones. I will get the one which offers the most promise for my needs.
I’m frankly tired of your pompous thoughtless points of view. Pure empty.
Do you find picking and choosing uncomfortable? Why? We want the best. This is not a charity. I have a great idea. Walk up to the desk at the border and seek legal admittance! If you are from any other country, other than Mexico, you will be denied asylum. Let’s get marauder on this, he will say there should be no border and no asylum necessary everybody just move in and out as much as you want to .Of course you don’t want that but then you can’t tell me what you really want.