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@Nanomaster saidGet lost? Realize tht all of you are lost in the wilderness, searching for other peoples' stuff and getting involved in their business....yet you say we should not get into Iran's business.
Get lost. As I explicitly explained in my first post above, I did not evaluate the official views of Iran; instead, I explained what their views actually were. You are repeatedly intentionally changing the context and ascribing to me views that are not mine. It is a deliberate attempt to throw the attention away from my main argument: that the views of Iran have been inten ...[text shortened]... erican military presence in the Middle East, which they (and not me) regard as a form of occupation.
Lost, because you all do not really understand what is going on. All of you chide me for watching FOX News?? Do you know that FOX has 14 of the 15 most popular news shows on television.. Fourteen, little feller. But you all think that FOX is a loser. You are the losers, don't you see. It is like your saying that the American Hockey Team is not a good hockey team. If you say they are losers, guess who the loser is. You.
A Note For You:::
Fox News dominates cable news ratings as of early 2026, frequently holding 13–14 of the top 15 most-watched programs, with The Five often reaching over 3.5–4 million viewers, far outpacing competitors like MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show (typically 1.7–2.5M) and CNN's top, lower-ranked offerings.
@AverageJoe1 saidCare to make a bet on it?
His commander said yesterday, more than 30 ships sunk . Sorry you have no elation of pride.
Gas price will return, had to get rid of Iran,. The xtra dollar, consider it an investment!
If not now, when?
@AverageJoe1 saidBut when will it go back down?
No I knew when he bombed that gas would go up. I also know it will go back down. Plus we got the end of a horrible Iran.
I’m just as not upset as y’all are. I did get upset with Biden lies, like NO discuss of biz with Hunter, or Obama’s “you can keep your doctor.” Which was a lie I say! Liars!
September? LOL!
@Metal-Brain saidHow can do that, since I am 100% sure that in a few months , crude will go back down. I am not going to comment on the price of gas at that time, but you would understand that simply we are not talking about what granny pays for gas. We are talking about global oil. So oil has gone up. It will go down.
Care to make a bet on it?
I bet. How about a friendly $5000, but loser doesn’t have to pay. Don’t have to worry about wiring funds.
@AverageJoe1 saidLOL!
How can do that, since I am 100% sure that in a few months , crude will go back down. I am not going to comment on the price of gas at that time, but you would understand that simply we are not talking about what granny pays for gas. We are talking about global oil. So oil has gone up. It will go down.
I bet. How about a friendly $5000, but loser doesn’t have to pay. Don’t have to worry about wiring funds.
A few months?
Trump said 4 or 5 weeks. Remember?
Funny how 1 month turned into 3 months. LOL!
Centcom is preparing for 5 months though.
Face it. Even a lot of republicans are going to resent Trump in a couple of months. 5 dollar per gallon gas. Trump did that. That is what everybody will say chatting at the pump feeling the pain.
Iran is a proxy war against the USA for Russia and China. This is going to be a disaster for the American people and therefore Trump. A disaster for the world really. At least the oil buying world. Get ready for the inflation rate to rise with the rise of oil prices.
It is time for you to learn economics. You are about to be killed with high inflation. Businesses will be crushed. Your golf course will have no choice but to charge you more to golf. Do you think all those mowers are not fuel dependent?
In time you will learn to resent Trump. Just give it time. This is a proxy war. Russia and China are both piling up on the US. They are sick of the crap and they set a trap for the elites that pull Trump's puppet strings. They will have to eat their legs off to get out of this trap. And you will suffer the most from it. Trump will not be hurt by the insane fuel prices and inflation that is coming. You will.
You are defending your future misery. You just don't know it yet.
There are again some mentally ill warmongers in the discussion. Their usual trick is to assert that you did not say what you said and said what you did not say. And so on. Their second favourite is to attack the person rather than criticise their arguments. Their third favourite is to misuse concepts and ignore common knowledge.
One of the warmongers here, for example, asserted that the US bases in the Middle East are not occupying forces because they have the contracts.
With such Americans, it is impossible to talk, and it is meaningless to try.
Everyone knows that the US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were not based on contracts with local governments. Also, everyone knows that the US established its military bases in Syria without the permission of the local government.
Basically, the warmongers deny common knowledge contained in Western best encyclopedias...
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@Metal-Brain saidWhen I read your post my jaw swung open like a pelican chick preparing for a beakful of regurgitated sardines from its mother.
Allegedly. There is no proof. Merely allegations.
It is by definition a conspiracy theory.
I’m very much afraid that you are nothing short of bollock-faced foghorn of ignorance disabled by stupidity and unknowing.
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@Pianoman1 saidThen you should have no problem proving it.
When I read your post my jaw swung open like a pelican chick preparing for a beakful of regurgitated sardines from its mother.
I’m very much afraid that you are nothing short of bollock-faced foghorn of ignorance disabled by stupidity and unknowing.
Can you do that?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-danger-of-calling-the-houthis-an-iranian-proxy/
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@Nanomaster saidMy, my, the Trump haters are out today!!!! You realize that all we (repub conservatives) see in posts such as this is not your random 'shouse predictions', nor your failure to get what is going on, but rather your innate hatred for Trump. That's it. Your new word 'Proxy' is as silly as it gets.
There are again some mentally ill warmongers in the discussion. Their usual trick is to assert that you did not say what you said and said what you did not say. And so on. Their second favourite is to attack the person rather than criticise their arguments. Their third favourite is to misuse concepts and ignore common knowledge.
One of the warmongers here, for example, ...[text shortened]... nment.
Basically, the warmongers deny common knowledge contained in Western best encyclopedias...
You ignore all the hell of Iran. Their nuclear threats. You are in denial of what they are doing and their goals, spelled out in the Koran. And you purport to know what China is up to!! That takes the cake.
Just remember how strong the USA is. Don't fret. I know gas prices worry dependent liberals, but just don't buy that Starbucks each day and it will cover the rise in gas. You are buying freedom....and INDEPENDENCE, but libs don't want to be independent, they want to be dependent. You do.
Freedom ain't free, little fellers. we have to work at it. Go to work.
Edit : Have any of you said straight out that we should let (or should have let) Iran continue on with their activities in Iran, let them go unchecked, and hope that there will be peace? That, we do nothing??
This is a question.
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@Metal-Brain saidWell, to begin with, as you are no doubt aware, it is well documented and accepted that the Lebanese revolutionary group Hezbollah was founded in 1982 as a Shia group, inspired by the Iranian Revolution of 1979. It established strong ties with Iran and is part of the "Axis of Resistance”, being funded and trained by IRGC instructors.
Then you should have no problem proving it.
Can you do that?
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-danger-of-calling-the-houthis-an-iranian-proxy/
This is fact which you cannot disprove.
Secondly, the Houthis of Yemen, again as you are no doubt aware, are a terrorist organisation drawing widespread condemnation for its human rights abuses. It is also part of the “Axis of Resistance” and is also backed and funded by Iran.
This is also fact which you cannot disprove.
Thirdly, Hamas has gone through a tortuous series of strained relations with Iran, but they both share the same ideological desire to see Israel wiped off the map. Because of this shared ideology Iran has sponsored Hamas throughout its recent history, though its financial sponsorship has waned of late.
Fact which you cannot disprove.
To return to the question of Iran. It is a despicable tyrannical mysogenistic theocracy guilty of appalling human rights abuses whose leaders were quite happy to cold-bloodedly kill thousands of protesters last month for daring to question them. If it can do that to its own people the mind boggles as to what it would be prepared to perpetrate on other nations were it allowed to build ballistic nuclear weapons. Ideologically obsessed with the obliteration of Israel and the denial of equal rights to women.
@Pianoman1 saidCorrect. Metal Brain has some rather weird sources of information. One of the most clear indications that Iran supports and maintains terrorists groups all over the world is that they said so clearly. They have no problem admitting it. The Terrorist groups receiving this support, all have no problem admitting that the IRGC finances their operations. Google says:
Well, to begin with, as you are no doubt aware, it is well documented and accepted that the Lebanese revolutionary group Hezbollah was founded in 1982 as a Shia group, inspired by the Iranian Revolution of 1979. It established strong ties with Iran and is part of the "Axis of Resistance”, being funded and trained by IRGC instructors.
This is fact which you cannot disprov ...[text shortened]... cent history, though its financial sponsorship has waned of late.
Fact which you cannot disprove.
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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and other Iranian officials are on record admitting to providing financial, military, and advisory support to various armed groups in the Middle East, which are designated as terrorist organizations by many countries.
While the Iranian regime often frames this support as defending the "axis of resistance" rather than funding "terrorism," officials have explicitly acknowledged the transfer of weapons, money, and training to groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and other regional proxies.
Key Admissions and Statements:
- Weaponry and Training: In January 2021, Amir Ali Hajizadeh, commander of the IRGC Aerospace Force, stated, "All the missiles you might see in Gaza and Lebanon were created with Iran's support".
- Regional Proxies: Iranian officials have acknowledged the involvement of the IRGC-Quds Force (the IRGC's foreign operations branch) in conflicts in Iraq and Syria, where they have funded and trained various militias.
- Support for Hezbollah: In November 2025, Hezbollah Secretary-General Naim Qassem publicly thanked Iran for its "massive" assistance.
- Direct Acknowledgement: In 2018, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, a leader of the Iran-backed Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF) in Iraq, stated, "I will not shy away from mentioning the support of the Islamic Republic of Iran in terms of weapons, advising, and planning".
Contextual Factors:
- Designation: The IRGC is designated as a terrorist organization by several countries, including the United States, Canada, Australia, and the European Union, which cite its role in financing and arming terrorist groups.
- Methods of Support: The IRGC-Quds Force facilitates this support through "off-the-books" financing, including oil sales, to avoid international sanctions.
- Denial of "Terrorism" Label: While admitting to supporting these groups, Iranian officials often deny that these actions constitute terrorism, instead defining them as supporting regional stability or fighting against Western/Israeli influence.
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@Pianoman1 saidEveryone…Hexbolla was founded in 1982.
Well, to begin with, as you are no doubt aware, it is well documented and accepted that the Lebanese revolutionary group Hezbollah was founded in 1982 as a Shia group, inspired by the Iranian Revolution of 1979. It established strong ties with Iran and is part of the "Axis of Resistance”, being funded and trained by IRGC instructors.
This is fact which you cannot disprov ...[text shortened]... cent history, though its financial sponsorship has waned of late.
Fact which you cannot disprove.
Next, the Houtis are….something or ‘nother 🤔
Next, Hamas and Israel do not like Iran.
Synopsis of tremendous Pianoman post!!!!!
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@Pianoman1 saidI will start with Yemen since your hypocrisy is off the charts in regards to that.
Well, to begin with, as you are no doubt aware, it is well documented and accepted that the Lebanese revolutionary group Hezbollah was founded in 1982 as a Shia group, inspired by the Iranian Revolution of 1979. It established strong ties with Iran and is part of the "Axis of Resistance”, being funded and trained by IRGC instructors.
This is fact which you cannot disprov ...[text shortened]... cent history, though its financial sponsorship has waned of late.
Fact which you cannot disprove.
The US/Saudi blockade caused countless children to starve to death. That was a genocidal war crime. Everything you said about Yemen applies to the USA. You have it backwards. And Yemen was trying to protect Gazans from genocide so they are not the terrorist, Israel is.
https://abcnews.com/International/85000-children-yemen-starved-death-save-children-report/story?id=59340453
As I proved in my last post funding does not prove proxy control of terrorists and even if it did the USA funded terrorists. The USA funded the Afghan mujahideen. The USA supports the leader in Syria who was in Al Qaeda. And there are countless examples of US sponsored terrorism. The USA sponsors more terrorism than any other nation in the world. That is a fact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
I could go in depth with Hezbollah, but I don't see why I would need to. The USA funded lots of terrorists. You were duped by propaganda and accepted a hypocritical stance without realizing it.
Israel bombed Iran, not the other way around. Israel is a terrorist nation. They elected a prime minister that was in a terrorist organization. A terrorist organization (LEHI) that attempted to ally with Nazi Germany. Yitzhak Shamir and Stern were responsible for that attempt. So a checkered past applies to Israel, not just Iran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shamir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun
Now that I have given you the rest of the story are you ready to stop repeating one sided hypocritical propaganda?
@Rajk999 saidGive it a rest, can you posters not key in?? Iran declared a state of WAR in 1979 when they took our citizens as prisoners, following with terrorism and death of Americans, Solomani making IED bombs, etc. so Trump, not unlike George Washington Napoleon Alexander, the great, a real man, a real warrior, a real lover of America, steps in and eliminate Solemani, starting his mission which is ongoing. You are all very weak minded with regard to us going over there, and wiping out a Iran,, but the only reason you feel that way is because you hate Donald Trump, one of the world‘s greatest leaders. Just pitiful.
Correct. Metal Brain has some rather weird sources of information. One of the most clear indications that Iran supports and maintains terrorists groups all over the world is that they said so clearly. They have no problem admitting it. The Terrorist groups receiving this support, all have no problem admitting that the IRGC finances their operations. Google says:
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My point is that it does not take the sources of information of MB to figure all this out. Thank God we don’t have Marauder loading us up with a bunch of links, which mean nothing, I have put it all in a nutshell. Thank you very much.