@no1marauder saidIs the act of. president opening the border of his country to all comers an argument for changing the constitution? Would that wave of the hand be the act of a dictator? If Trump had done it, would it be the act of dictator Would James Madison think it would be the act of a dictator? Would he want us to change the constitution and jail Biden for treason? You are too smart for your own britches on this one.
If you don't like what's written in the Constitution, you amend it.
You want a dictator as long as he does what you like. The Framers thought differently and "changing times" isn't an argument for dictators as the 20th Century should have shown even someone with the obviously limited education you have.
@Metal-Brain saidA bit difficult on the forum for one who has no war experience (me, in this case) to banter with someone who has no war experience (you and everyone).
You said the past did not matter. Because you didn't want to acknowledge that the USA funded terrorists. But now it is obvious you want to hold the past against Iran while ignoring US funding of terrorists.
The USA is guilty of the same thing. You don't want to talk about that.
For all we know, the 'US funding of terrorists' could be a president/USA sending millions to fund terrorists who hate Iran, that we ALSO hate. We use killers to kill other killers.
Cool. I shoulda been a military advisor.
@AverageJoe1 saidSince it's a right wing fairy tale it has all the revelance of Cinderella.
Is the act of. president opening the border of his country to all comers an argument for changing the constitution? Would that wave of the hand be the act of a dictator? If Trump had done it, would it be the act of dictator Would James Madison think it would be the act of a dictator? Would he want us to change the constitution and jail Biden for treason? You are too smart for your own britches on this one.
Unlike under Biden, who's administration removed and deported millions, under James Madison the US was pretty much "open to all comers".
@no1marauder saidI’d heard he invited anywhere from 12,000,000 to 20,000,000 aliens into our country. Do you know why it’s not a more specific number. ?Because we don’t know squat about who came into our country…. to a liberal that does not sound like a big deal because it means 20 million votes. from fellow parasites.
Since it's a right wing fairy tale it has all the revelance of Cinderella.
Unlike under Biden, who's administration removed and deported millions, under James Madison the US was pretty much "open to all comers".
Yes, you are right, we said everyone can come in from other countries once they have been checked out at Ellis Island. Do you think we should have checked out all these people that swam across the river? Do you really think you just made a point. It really sucks.
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@AverageJoe1 saidMarauder calls my post here a ‘fairy tale”.
Is the act of. president opening the border of his country to all comers an argument for changing the constitution? Would that wave of the hand be the act of a dictator? If Trump had done it, would it be the act of dictator Would James Madison think it would be the act of a dictator? Would he want us to change the constitution and jail Biden for treason? You are too smart for your own britches on this one.
It says that Biden stood by while aliens invaded a border. If they ain’t a violation of the constitution I don’t know what it is.
Marauder is having a bad day on the forum
@AverageJoe1 saidIt's a lie pure and simple.
Marauder calls my post here a ‘fairy tale”.
It says that Biden stood by while aliens invaded a border. If they ain’t a violation of the constitution I don’t know what it is.
Marauder is having a bad day on the forum
That you keep repeating it doesn't magically transform it into the truth.
@AverageJoe1 saidEllis Island didn't open until 1892 long after James Madison was President.
I’d heard he invited anywhere from 12,000,000 to 20,000,000 aliens into our country. Do you know why it’s not a more specific number. ?Because we don’t know squat about who came into our country…. to a liberal that does not sound like a big deal because it means 20 million votes. from fellow parasites.
Yes, you are right, we said everyone can come in from other coun ...[text shortened]... people that swam across the river? Do you really think you just made a point. It really sucks.
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Even at that, inspections at EI were cursory, almost everyone was allowed in unless they had a contagious disease and they didn't need to show they had work or family here.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou are evading talking about US sponsored terrorism.
A bit difficult on the forum for one who has no war experience (me, in this case) to banter with someone who has no war experience (you and everyone).
For all we know, the 'US funding of terrorists' could be a president/USA sending millions to fund terrorists who hate Iran, that we ALSO hate. We use killers to kill other killers.
Cool. I shoulda been a military advisor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
Your position has shifted to our terrorism is good because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Iran can claim the same thing, so all of your excuses have evaporated. You are back to square one. Iran is the victim of aggression.
@no1marauder saidI, average Joe, employ you to tell us exactly what the lie is. Please, no spin. We are having a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
It's a lie pure and simple.
That you keep repeating it doesn't magically transform it into the truth.
@no1marauder saidUhhh, right, they were checked out. That is what you mean when you say we had to be sure they did not have a contagious disease. That carried right on into our Texas border, inspecting people coming into our country.
Ellis Island didn't open until 1892 long after James Madison was President.
Even at that, inspections at EI were cursory, almost everyone was allowed in unless they had a contagious disease and they didn't need to show they had work or family here.
Thanks for telling us when Ellis island came into being, it was probably put there because of seeing so many people come in that they had better start checking thank God we got this far before the Democrats got a hold of Biden, although we now have too many, and some with diseases we have never heard of , which your grandchildren will carry with them the rest of their lives
@Metal-Brain saidUhhhh, to suggest that we might consider thinking that Iran could claim the same thing?!?!?!?
You are evading talking about US sponsored terrorism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state-sponsored_terrorism
Your position has shifted to our terrorism is good because the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Iran can claim the same thing, so all of your excuses have evaporated. You are back to square one. Iran is the victim of aggression.
We don’t care what they think, MB. You libs are so touchy-feely. We want to blow them into the ground and you want to consider what they think. 🤔
US sponsored terrorismbasically threshed out in the war room with people that are smarter than you and me. I cannot imagine sitting here debating with you and Sunhouse about the concept us sponsored terrorism. I’m sure it goes on and that it is a good concept. It must work, along with all of our other tricks, as we are the greatest and strongest country in the world.
So call it evading if you would like, and I understand. I just don’t know if know enough about it. I bet you and marauder could have a great debate and we would observe from the sidelines.
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@AverageJoe1 saidIsrael has attacked Iran unprovoked more than once. Israel is the terrorist nation as is the USA. Claiming defense by accusing Iran of what the US and Israel are doing is dishonest.
Uhhhh, to suggest that we might consider thinking that Iran could claim the same thing?!?!?!?
We don’t care what they think, MB. You libs are so touchy-feely. We want to blow them into the ground and you want to consider what they think. 🤔
US sponsored terrorismbasically threshed out in the war room with people that are smarter than you and me. I cannot imagine s ...[text shortened]... about it. I bet you and marauder could have a great debate and we would observe from the sidelines.
In other words, you are fooling yourself because you want to believe the propaganda. You want to believe it badly.....or bigly if you want use silly Trump lingo. And if they are smarter than us why are they losing the war?
Group think? Matters not. Still not winning. LOL!
https://rumble.com/v76sfp6-this-is-why-iran-will-defeat-the-united-states-and-israel-w-seyed-mohammad-.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
The best you can hope for is that the US and Israel stop bombing Iran and hope Iran does that same. Trump is sooooooo desperate he destroyed a super valuable refinery in Iran. Loser!
@AverageJoe1 saidThat the US border was open during the Biden administration.
I, average Joe, employ you to tell us exactly what the lie is. Please, no spin. We are having a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
@no1marauder saidShoot. Marauder digs a hole and goes into spin mode. Ask him to define 'open' ,I am exhausted with his deflecting silliness. Aliens have indeed come through our borders for a long long time. We had to 'open' them, with gates,, points of Entry,,,,,,,so that they could enter, don't you know??
That the US border was open during the Biden administration.
The very word 'entry' suggests that the border opened for those admitted entrants. (Not a bad paragraph by ole AvJoe, so all can get it.)
But Marauder pretends to not get it, and thinks he defeats my argument. I will go ahead and put a Win in my column.
Remember a while back, when the harangue of illegal alien invaders was going on, he said 'The Border is Not Open"
Am I the only one who exposes hypocrisy here?
@AverageJoe1 saidMillions were stopped at the border.
Shoot. Marauder digs a hole and goes into spin mode. Ask him to define 'open' ,I am exhausted with his deflecting silliness. Aliens have indeed come through our borders for a long long time. We had to 'open' them, with gates,, points of Entry,,,,,,,so that they could enter, don't you know??
The very word 'entry' suggests that the border opened for those admitted e ...[text shortened]... rs was going on, he said 'The Border is Not Open"
Am I the only one who exposes hypocrisy here?
Millions were subject to summary removal.
Deportations were near or at an all time high.
That isn't an "open border".