Iranian leader denies Holocaust
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has courted further controversy by explicitly calling the Nazi Holocaust of European Jewry a "myth".
"They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he said.
On live TV, he called for Europe or North America - even Alaska - to host a Jewish state, not the Middle East.
Israel swiftly denounced the president's comments.
"We hope these extremist comments... will make the international community open its eyes and abandon any illusions about this regime," foreign ministry spokesman Mark Regev told AFP news agency.
Mr Ahmadinejad's latest declaration echoes comments he made last week, in which he said territory should be "provided" in Germany or Austria to establish Israel "if European countries claim that they have killed Jews in World War II".
The president sparked international outrage in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map".
'Europe's fault'
Speaking to thousands of people in the south-eastern city of Zahedan, Mr Ahmadinejad brushed aside criticism of his views, saying it was orchestrated by supporters of Israel.
"If someone were to deny the existence of God... or prophets and religion, they would not bother him.
"However, if someone were to deny the myth of the Jews' massacre, all the Zionist mouthpieces and the governments subservient to the Zionists tear their larynxes and scream against the person as much as they can," he said.
He returned to his earlier theme that Europe should shoulder the responsibility for a Jewish state.
"If you [Europeans] committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?
"This is our proposal: give a part of your own land in Europe, the US, Canada or Alaska to them so that the Jews can establish their country," he said.
Since his election in June 2005, Mr Ahmadinejad has taken a more hardline stance towards Israel in public than his predecessors, and has recently stepped up his anti-Israel rhetoric.
Israel's spokesman said the Iranian president's latest remarks reflected a "perverse vision of the world held by this regime".
BBC Tehran correspondent Frances Harrison says the Iranian press has endorsed the president's views, calling them logical and less passive than the approach of previous Iranian governments.
Condemnation
The foreign minister of Germany criticised Mr Ahmadinejad's remarks as "shocking and unacceptable" and warned they could influence negotiations with Iran over its nuclear programme.
"I cannot hide the fact that this weighs on bilateral relations and on the chances for the negotiation process," Frank-Walter Steinmeier said.
German officials are scheduled to meet their Iranian counterparts on 21 December for the next round of talks over Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Talks between Tehran and three European Union nations - Germany, France and the UK - have been deadlocked over Iran's renewed efforts to produce nuclear fuel.
The EU renewed its condemnation of Mr Ahmadinejad's position, saying it had no place in civilised political debate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm
What is your stance on the Iranian president's statement ?
Should a country with such leadership be allowed to develop nuclear weapons ?
Originally posted by NicolaiSSome country's presidents say dumb things. So what? Ronald Reagan once said that the Abraham Lincoln Brigade which fought in the Spanish Civil War against the Fascists and their German and Italian allies "fought on the wrong side". There's no intelligence test for elected presidents, sadly or not.
[b]Iranian leader denies Holocaust
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has courted further controversy by explicitly calling the Nazi Holocaust of European Jewry a "myth".
"They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he said.
On live TV, he c ...[text shortened]... 's statement ?
Should a country with such leadership be allowed to develop nuclear weapons ?[/b]
Originally posted by NicolaiSThe man is obviously an arsehole, filled with so much hate it's blinding him to rationality.
What is your stance on the Iranian president's statement ?
Should a country with such leadership be allowed to develop nuclear weapons ?
So, considering all the countries that do have nuclear weapons, he fits right in....
Originally posted by shavixmirhehe, good one!
The man is obviously an arsehole, filled with so much hate it's blinding him to rationality.
So, considering all the countries that do have nuclear weapons, he fits right in....
But you know people what he would do if he had the chance, he is
not just spouting frothing at the mouth rhetoric. He would do exactly
what he says if given a chance and probably wouldn't much give a
dam if his own country is destroyed in retaliation.
Originally posted by sonhouseYou sound just as irrational and fanatical as he does.
hehe, good one!
But you know people what he would do if he had the chance, he is
not just spouting frothing at the mouth rhetoric. He would do exactly
what he says if given a chance and probably wouldn't much give a
dam if his own country is destroyed in retaliation.
In Europe we are used to people who state these things. We know them and we recognise them and their friends for what they are: neo-fascists and anti-Semites.
We have to be vigilant against all sorts of fascism and anti-semitism whether they disguise themselves as Muslems, Christians, Buddhists, communists, democrats, republicans, Democrats, Republicans, liberals or libertarians.
Everybody who does not condemn and does not take a clear stance against such outrageous statements runs the risk of becoming their accomplice.
December 14, 2005
BUSH SPEAKS OUT
American President Bush Denies Stupidity
In a press conference today, American President denied his stupidity on political and academic matters.
"I am not an idiot. I am saving America from dying. If it wasn't for me, there wouldn't be 2,000 American soldiers dead in Iraq. Americans need to realize that."
The President was then called aside by his aide, and returned with the following statement before leaving the scene.
"Sorry. My aide tells me that I messed up. But the American people should know that I didn't. Donald told me so."
The President was unavailable for further comment after this appearence.
Originally posted by ivanhoeOh no! I'm in danger of becoming a terrorist!
In Europe we are used to people who state these things. We know them and we recognise them and their friends for what they are: neo-fascists and anti-Semites.
We have to be vigilant against all sorts of fascism and anti-semitism whether they disguise themselves as Muslems, Christians, Buddhists, communists, democrats, republicans, Democrats, Republicans, ...[text shortened]... ke a clear stance against such outrageous statements runs the risk of becoming their accomplice.
Please shoot me before such can occur. Please do so in a most un-terrorish way, though. Thank you.
Originally posted by no1maraudermarauder: "Some country's presidents say dumb things. So what?"
Some country's presidents say dumb things. So what? Ronald Reagan once said that the Abraham Lincoln Brigade which fought in the Spanish Civil War against the Fascists and their German and Italian allies "fought on the wrong side". There's no intelligence test for elected presidents, sadly or not.
You are taking this very lightheartedly, marauder .... why ? Don't you take the Iranian president seriously ... same as you do or did when Reagan said stupid things?
Don't you condemn the Iranian President's stance ?
Originally posted by abejnoodAbejnood: "Oh no! I'm in danger of becoming a terrorist!"
Oh no! I'm in danger of becoming a terrorist!
Please shoot me before such can occur. Please do so in a most un-terrorish way, though. Thank you.
No, you are in danger of becoming an accomplice of fascists and anti-semites. Thát's what I said.
Originally posted by ivanhoeMy country has aided a rogue state in the illegal kidnapping, detention and torture of countless individuals, and there isn't a damn thing I can do about it until the next elections.
Abejnood: "Oh no! I'm in danger of becoming a terrorist!"
No, you are in danger of becoming an accomplice of fascists and anti-semites. Thát's what I said.
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