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is chess a bloke thing?

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Originally posted by twhitehead
It is a lot more than that. It probably has a lot more to do with sex and relationships than it does with 'tasks' in primitive hunter-gatherer societies.
In almost all animals the physical and behavioral differences between the sexes have to do with the fact that the female invests more in the pregnancy and is usually the most likely to raise the childre ...[text shortened]... Because you think shes more likely to marry you, stay at home and look after the children.
I mean "tasks" in a very general sense, i.e. activities during the day (including raising offspring).

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I mean "tasks" in a very general sense, i.e. activities during the day (including raising offspring).
OK. But I still say it has less to do with diversity of tasks and more to do with which skills are selected for when choosing a mate.

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Originally posted by wittywonka
http://www.engr.psu.edu/fff/misc/summers-v-XX_press_050209.pdf

"The president of Harvard University, Lawrence H. Summers, sparked an uproar at
an academic conference Friday when he said that innate differences between men
and women might be one reason fewer women succeed in science and math
careers. Summers also questioned how much of a role discrim ...[text shortened]... n plays in the
dearth of female professors in science and engineering at elite universities."
Yes; I remember that. The PC police lynched him for daring to discuss that subject. What a joke.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
OK. But I still say it has less to do with diversity of tasks and more to do with which skills are selected for when choosing a mate.
Yeah, maybe so, I'm not an expert on human evolution.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yeah, maybe so, I'm not an expert on human evolution.
Neither am I, but in almost all species, sexual choice is the driver for sexual differentiation and I don't think humans would be an exception.
The roles taken on in hunter gather societies were probably more a function of sex and sexual differentiation than the other way around.

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Originally posted by yavash
why is chess so male dominanted?
Chess features two armies trying to kill each other.

If it featured two girl gangs trying to temp each other's (male) mates away, more women would play.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
"Different from"

In any case, I do think there are inherent differences, though I would like to know why American women are represented so much higher in poker than chess, which is the opposite in other countries. And why is the nation of Georgia so highly represented by women when it was one of the most sexist members of the Soviet Union for decades in cultural terms?
Sorry, not an English major, that would be more of a female thing.

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Chess is a foolish expedient for making idle people believe they are doing something very clever when they are only wasting their time.”

- maybe women have more important things to be getting on with!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by twhitehead
OK. But I still say it has less to do with diversity of tasks and more to do with which skills are selected for when choosing a mate.
Whether consciously or viscerally, I do think that most men select women who are intelligent. It certainly helps to perpetuate the species.

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Originally posted by yavash
why is chess so male dominanted?
I've asked this many times. From what I can tell males tend to be more anaylitical in there thinking, females tend to think more about relationships. There are exeptions to this of course, but I think this explains much of why you don't see many female chess players.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
Whether consciously or viscerally, I do think that most men select women who are intelligent.
It depends on the situation. My view is that 'dumb blonds' are popular for a quick fling and 'spreading the wild oats' and intelligent girls are more popular for a more permanent relationship. I think girls also often have different characteristics they look for depending on the type of relationship they are looking for.

It certainly helps to perpetuate the species.
Again, I think the situation is important. In the current state of the world, the highest population growth is occurring in the poorest and least educated places.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
Whether consciously or viscerally, I do think that most men select women who are intelligent. It certainly helps to perpetuate the species.
Evolution doesn't select behaviour that helps to perpetuate the species.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Evolution doesn't select behaviour that helps to perpetuate the species.
I've got about half a dozen books on my shelf by authors who disagree, and I don't know why it wouldn't given that the bulk of our behavior is in fact patterned despite our assumptions of free will.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
It depends on the situation. My view is that 'dumb blonds' are popular for a quick fling and 'spreading the wild oats' and intelligent girls are more popular for a more permanent relationship. I think girls also often have different characteristics they look for depending on the type of relationship they are looking for.

[b]It certainly helps to perpet ...[text shortened]... world, the highest population growth is occurring in the poorest and least educated places.
Even the "dumb blonde" thing is misleading. To put on the act, the blonde requires intelligence.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
I've got about half a dozen books on my shelf by authors who disagree, and I don't know why it wouldn't given that the bulk of our behavior is in fact patterned despite our assumptions of free will.
Well, they're wrong. Evolution selects behaviour that benefits the reproductive success of gene carriers.