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Originally posted by KunsooI think you miss the point. The first question couldn't possibly have been addressed to you!
Oh, to answer the first question, it may be that social species benefit from a certain number of individuals whose function would be impaired if distracted by offspring. Take the example of wolves and lions, only one male of the group reproduces with the females, and actually I think with wolves only one female mates. If all of the males challenge the alpha t than simply redirecting it.
It could also be an intraspecies response to overpopulation.
(To elaborate, if homosexuality has a strong genetic component, it is obviously well-explained in terms of species dynamic, which you have proposed. The question is for KN, who needs to explain how homosexuality benefits an individual organism, which is what he proposes.)
Originally posted by KunsooOne thing that has always struck me is how many homosexual men have an overtly feminine demeanor. I'm sure most of us have heard the old phrase, "gaydar" - the ability to identify men who are gay.
Everybody always assumes that homosexuality and gender identity are genetic issues. There is much more consensus that it's a hormonal issue - simply that in utero the egg of a particular sex is drenched with the hormonal combination intended for the opposite sex. Sometimes the woman's body gets mixed signals and the combinations are changed in mid-stream of ...[text shortened]... the face of the balances being altered, sex drive is probably one of the first to be altered.
Growing up in the bay area I've known and been around a great deal of gays. I have absolutely no doubt it is NOT "learned" or deliberate mannerisms.
Whether it's genetic or hormonal, I have absolutely no doubt there is a biological factor that makes some people gay or bisexual.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperDo you think your gaydar would work just as well on the streets of Beijing?
One thing that has always struck me is how many homosexual men have an overtly feminine demeanor. I'm sure most of us have heard the old phrase, "gaydar" - the ability to identify men who are gay.
Growing up in the bay area I've known and been around a great deal of gays. I have absolutely no doubt it is NOT "learned" or deliberate mannerisms. ...[text shortened]... tely no doubt there is a biological factor that makes some people gay or bisexual.
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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperI was also raised in the Bay Area, and you're right, although there are certainly plenty of "butch" homosexual men and "lipstick lesbians." And there are effeminate men who are attracted to women, and vice versa.
One thing that has always struck me is how many homosexual men have an overtly feminine demeanor. I'm sure most of us have heard the old phrase, "gaydar" - the ability to identify men who are gay.
Growing up in the bay area I've known and been around a great deal of gays. I have absolutely no doubt it is NOT "learned" or deliberate mannerisms. ...[text shortened]... tely no doubt there is a biological factor that makes some people gay or bisexual.
But I think the best argument that homosexual orientation is not a matter of choice is simply practical - who would want to take the crap you have to take by choice?
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperIt may be biological or at least partly biological, but to your argument, don't you think the same psychological influences that might cause someone to be gay might also cause this "overtly feminine demeanor"?
One thing that has always struck me is how many homosexual men have an overtly feminine demeanor. I'm sure most of us have heard the old phrase, "gaydar" - the ability to identify men who are gay.
Growing up in the bay area I've known and been around a great deal of gays. I have absolutely no doubt it is NOT "learned" or deliberate mannerisms. ...[text shortened]... tely no doubt there is a biological factor that makes some people gay or bisexual.
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Originally posted by VoidSpiritIs it really a military/strategy game? I know the pieces make it look so, but I think it's more like a mathematical/spatial contest.
the reason is cultural. chess is a military/strategy concept game. women are culturally not expected to have an interest in military strategy.
Originally posted by yavashWhen chess first became popular in the US, about 1972 (Fisher v. Spasky), I recall reading that question raised on the world level about the shortage of female grandmasters, as well as other titled players. The theory in those days was a lack of "fighting spirit" or "competitiveness" among the fairer gender.
why is chess so male dominanted?
Personally, I think it is cultural differences which account for the numerical differences. I suspect that there is a similar difference in number of male and female poker players. Neither chess, nor poker requires size or physical strength, which accounts for the lack of females playing professional football and basketball.
Originally posted by KunsooIt may well be that evolution advances species, although it is hardly measurable. Dogs remain dogs, and other than being bred by humans for specific tasks, they aren't any more capable than they were a several centuries ago.
I've got about half a dozen books on my shelf by authors who disagree, and I don't know why it wouldn't given that the bulk of our behavior is in fact patterned despite our assumptions of free will.
Human advancement may be attributed, not to evolution, but to communications and accumulation of knowledge from generation to generation.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperGaydar? The usual way men or women find out a member of their gender is homosexual is when they are hit on. A great many gay men are very manly in appearance and manner, and many lesbians are extremely feminine.
One thing that has always struck me is how many homosexual men have an overtly feminine demeanor. I'm sure most of us have heard the old phrase, "gaydar" - the ability to identify men who are gay.
Growing up in the bay area I've known and been around a great deal of gays. I have absolutely no doubt it is NOT "learned" or deliberate mannerisms. ...[text shortened]... tely no doubt there is a biological factor that makes some people gay or bisexual.
Many homosexuals seek out the same characteristics which the opposite sex finds attractive. There are also many men with feminine traits, and women with masculine ones who are as straight as arrows.