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Originally posted by no1marauderThat is precisely what he is doing; it is you who spins fabrications. But I suppose that is better than resorting to your usual uncouth, vulgar, personal abuse.
While you're "looking at history" try to actually deal with the facts for a change.
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Originally posted by RedmikeYour belief in the saving grace of a communist Utopia, where everyone except the rulers is equally deprived and miserable shows that you have a lot to learn. But I fear you never will.
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You really don't have a grasp on a whole lot of things, do you?
Originally posted by PhilodorAt the sound of his indefatigable wisdom, the community lay down their keyboards, made a cup of tea and warmed their hands over their CRT screens as yet again they knew they were about to be enthralled by the sublime truth of that master wordsmith Pile o' odour.
Your belief in the saving grace of a communist Utopia, where everyone except the rulers is equally deprived and miserable shows that you have a lot to learn. But I fear you never will.
Lets just savour the moment folks, we have too little to look forward to in our bleak surroundings to miss these pearls.
Originally posted by kmax87Please get your English-speaking interpreter to translate, so that I may reply to whatever it is you are trying to say.
At the sound of his indefatigable wisdom, the community lay down their keyboards, made a cup of tea and warmed their hands over their CRT screens as yet again they knew they were about to be enthralled by the sublime truth of that master wordsmith Pile o' odour.
Lets just savour the moment folks, we have too little to look forward to in our bleak surroundings to miss these pearls.
Originally posted by whodeyIt's troubling how far people will go to dredge up some long-irrelevant link between Palestinians and Nazis. It's even worse when that tenuous link becomes a justification for mistreating a whole nation -- most of whom were born long after the event.
Just as a follow up, it seems more clear to me now why Islamo-fascism seems to have sprung up after WWll. It seems to have all started by al-Husseini after it was introduced to him via his Nazi connections. Its almost as if Hitler himself is reaching out from the grave and continuing to attack the Jewish people as well as continuing to spread terror to the ...[text shortened]... we must be forced to look at history and consider what appeasing their role models accomplished.
But that's what propaganda terms like 'Islamofascism' are supposed to do, aren't they? Create a link where none exists?
Al-Husseini is dead. His antics with Hitler were a sideshow that never accomplished anything significant for the Nazi war effort. There were no Palestinian divisions in the Wehrmacht (the Bosnian division mutinied, deserted and fought with Tito against the Nazis?) Post-war, Al-Husseini was completely sidelined by the Arab League.
Arafat is now dead and was irrelevant for most of the last half of his life -- in power, but accomplishing little except holding onto that power.
The bottom line is that some Europeans commited a heinous crime against European Jews, but Palestinian Arabs have ended up making the biggest sacrifice to atone for that fact.
The only firm link between the events is that one injustice has lead to another as it so often does.
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Originally posted by spruce112358And despite all the posturing and double-speak, the irrefutable fact is that he signed on the dotted line at Oslo.
Arafat is now dead and was irrelevant for most of the last half of his life -- in power, but accomplishing little except holding onto that power.
Incidentally, Whodey, you might want to read the faqs and links on the site you posted. That should give you a clue as to its orientation.
I can't take seriously anyone who doesn't accept that there are questions to be asked about the behaviour of both sides.
Originally posted by dottewellThere have been Camp David's since Carter's presidency and it has always seemed that the other side whether they were Egyptians speaking on behalf of or Israel seemingly forgetful of her own german trauma would always find one good reason why the solution was not good eough, or why they were justified to carry on the carnage. If you have watched the middle east long enough you will have noticed years of media coverage singularly biased in favour of the Israeli's followed by at least the same number of years of media coverage complaining how biased the media coverage in the middle east has favoured Israel.
And despite all the posturing and double-speak, the irrefutable fact is that he signed on the dotted line at Oslo.
Incidentally, Whodey, you might want to read the faqs and links on the site you posted. That should give you a clue as to its orientation.
I can't take seriously anyone who doesn't accept that there are questions to be asked about the behaviour of both sides.
No one likes stereotypes, but it seems schoolyard bullies would be an apt description. From one minute to the next you were never sure if the problem was contemporary( because when they seemed to have sorted that out, the spectre of age old religious animosity would rear its ugly head) and when you thought they had just gotten a handle on their history, some local flare up either on the part of Israeli soldiers shooting at stone throwing kids, or a wave of terror bombings with people like Arafat shrugging saying in effect you try and control these bastards, I just want to die in peace!