Originally posted by whodey"The Arabs began with uprisings in Israel against the UK during WWll ..."
I just watched a documentary on the History channel about the alliance between Hitler and and Islamic groups in the Middle East in the late 1930 to early 1940's. Apparently both hated the Jews and both agreed they should be destroyed. The other interest they shared was to destroy the British due to the fact that Britan occupied much of the Middle East durin ...[text shortened]... lers hinchmen. Has anyone else seen this on the History channel or heard about such facts?
No doubt I'll be accused of anti-semitism for pointing out the impossibility of this statement.
Originally posted by Bosse de NageIt is not that easy my friend. After all, Islam does not recognize a difference between affairs of the state and that of religion. In reality, they were making a deal with the devil himself with the blessings of Allah. One of their slogans in the documentary was Allah is our God and Hitler is our hope. It was a chillling sight to see the most powerfull religious leader in all of Islam give Adolph Hitler the old siege hail solute. They even said that there was a secret agreement to continue genocide in the Middle East once the war in Europe had ended.
Well, people tend to ally against common enemies. The Finns allied with the Nazis against the Russians, while the Iraqis sided with the Nazis against the English. Nobody has a problem with Vodacom today...
In WW1, the Arabs sided with the English against the Turks in exchange for promises of independence. The English didn't keep their promises. Could that have had something to do with the political situation in WW2?
Originally posted by whodeyPlease give some cites that support these claims. As shown in other threads, you constantly misstate the facts, often deliberately so.
It is not that easy my friend. After all, Islam does not recognize a difference between affairs of the state and that of religion. In reality, they were making a deal with the devil himself with the blessings of Allah. One of their slogans in the documentary was Allah is our God and Hitler is our hope. It was a chillling sight to see the most powerfull re ...[text shortened]... was a secret agreement to continue genocide in the Middle East once the war in Europe had ended.
Originally posted by princeoforangeYOU ARE WRONG!
So would you say that Islamic groups don't hate the Jews or want them destroyed? Because if you would then you are a very naive and deluded individual.
Islam does not hate Jews... the Jews are regarded as people of the books and are our brothers as well.
It is true Muslims do not like the sate of Israel because of what has happened to the Palastians.
Israel is ruled by the Zionists that is not the same as Jews..OK?
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Originally posted by whodeyThat post shows a woeful grasp of history, of the relationship between Islam and Judaism, and of political reality in the Islamic world.
It is not that easy my friend. After all, Islam does not recognize a difference between affairs of the state and that of religion. In reality, they were making a deal with the devil himself with the blessings of Allah. One of their slogans in the documentary was Allah is our God and Hitler is our hope. It was a chillling sight to see the most powerfull re ...[text shortened]... was a secret agreement to continue genocide in the Middle East once the war in Europe had ended.
Do you have any evidence for any of these claims, or are you expecting us to take them on trust because you say you saw them on a TV programme?
Regarding the salute, you might want to read the following.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3128202.stm
Originally posted by RagnorakA bigot is a prejudiced person, intolerant of any opinions which differ from his own, the examples you gave do not fit this definition, try some others.
"In my humble opinion Islam is an evil murderous religion."
"Nuke Mecca during the Hajj."
"We could nuke the Mid East without worrying about harming the good guys."
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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Originally posted by spruce1123581)The Palestinians do NOT have legitimate grievances. Start a new thread if you want to debate this.
1)The Palestinians of today have legitimate greivances which are mostly unaddressed. 2)[b]Until America begins to press for justice for the Palestinians, there will be no peace in the Middle East -- that's for sure.[/b]
2)It was a different story when America was pressing for justice for the Iraqis wasn't it? I feel that your apparent concern for the Palestinians does not stem from real concern, or it would doubtless extend to others (such as the Iraqis), it stems from your irrational hatred of Israel.
Originally posted by SALADINThere is one hitch in your theory: It was the arab nations in 1948 who attacked the fledgling state of Israel, unprovoked, 24 hours after the UN gave them the territory. So don't keep pounding on the plight of the Palistinians as the reason why the arab nations want to kill Israel.
YOU ARE WRONG!
Islam does not hate Jews... the Jews are regarded as people of the books and are our brothers as well.
It is true Muslims do not like the sate of Israel because of what has happened to the Palastians.
Israel is ruled by the Zionists that is not the same as Jews..OK?
I fully agree with you, now the Israeli's treat the Palistinians like dogs. I know, I lived in Jerusalem for three years but don't forget who attacked who first.
Originally posted by sonhouseThe 1948 fairy tale again.
There is one hitch in your theory: It was the arab nations in 1948 who attacked the fledgling state of Israel, unprovoked, 24 hours after the UN gave them the territory. So don't keep pounding on the plight of the Palistinians as the reason why the arab nations want to kill Israel.
I fully agree with you, now the Israeli's treat the Palistinians like dogs. I know, I lived in Jerusalem for three years but don't forget who attacked who first.
Originally posted by sonhouseBUT HOW DID ISRAEL COME TO BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. if you see what i mean!?
There is one hitch in your theory: It was the arab nations in 1948 who attacked the fledgling state of Israel, unprovoked, 24 hours after the UN gave them the territory. So don't keep pounding on the plight of the Palistinians as the reason why the arab nations want to kill Israel.
I fully agree with you, now the Israeli's treat the Palistinians like dogs. I know, I lived in Jerusalem for three years but don't forget who attacked who first.
Originally posted by princeoforangeMain Entry: big·ot
A bigot is a prejudiced person, intolerant of any opinions which differ from his own, the examples you gave do not fit this definition, try some others.
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: French, hypocrite, bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
And you claim you're studying law? 😕
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