@Metal-Brain saidThe League of Nations was established around 1920 by the USA. The UN replaced it around 1945. The Partition Plan was approved by the UN and came into effect in 1948, when the British left Palestine.
No, the British created the league of nations to allow the British to steal the land.
There was no stealing of land. Colonial Empires were at war in those days and the British overthrew the Ottoman Empire and took control of the Levant area.
It appears you have your own history book so it is pointless to respond further.
@Rajk999 saidNo. 😆
In 1948, the Arabs were given a separate state, with their own rights and privileges that goes with a sovereign state. They refused, and instead wanted the state given to the Jews, plus their own. Thereafter they set out to kill Jews, and have been for the last 75 years trying to do this, without success .
Such a group of people, do not deserve to have their own state/country, but deserve to be in prison, locked away from the rest of the world.
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@Rajk999 saidYou've been corrected on such nonsense numerous times on this Forum. Virtually nothing in this post is accurate.
The League of Nations was established around 1920 by the USA. The UN replaced it around 1945. The Partition Plan was approved by the UN and came into effect in 1948, when the British left Palestine.
There was no stealing of land. Colonial Empires were at war in those days and the British overthrew the Ottoman Empire and took control of the Levant area.
It appears you have your own history book so it is pointless to respond further.
Find a real history book.
EDIT: Hell, I'll do it again.
1. The US not only didn't establish the League, it didn't even join.
2. The Partition Plan was passed by the General Assembly as a proposal without any force of law. It was never accepted and never came into effect.
3. Your previous posts claim the British Empire "owned" Palestine; this is absolutely wrong - it was given a Mandate over the area but is was never part of the Empire and neither the British or anyone else had any legitimate power to give it to any entity. The People in it had a right to self-determination which was violated.
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From the General Assembly resolution declaring the Partition Plan:
"Recommends to the United Kingdom, as the
mandatory Power for Palestine, and to all other
Members of the United Nations the adoption and
implementation, with regard to the future gov
emment of Palestine, of the Plan of Partition with
Economic Union set out below;"
"Calls upon the inhabitants of Palestine to take
such steps as may be necessary on their part to
put this plan into effect;"
https://documents.un.org/doc/resolution/gen/nr0/038/88/pdf/nr003888.pdf
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@no1marauder saidWoodrow Wilson, the then President of the US was the leading architect of the League of Nations. The received a Nobel Peace Prize for his work in setting it up. They did not join because of the Treaty of Versailles which stopped them.
You've been corrected on such nonsense numerous times on this Forum. Virtually nothing in this post is accurate.
Find a real history book.
EDIT: Hell, I'll do it again.
1. The US not only didn't establish the League, it didn't even join.
2. The Partition Plan was passed by the General Assembly as a proposal without any force of law. It was never accepted and ...[text shortened]... wer to give it to any entity. The People in it had a right to self-determination which was violated.
In the days of conquest Colonial powers fought over land and did not need anyone to grant them ownership. Wars won automatically meant land came under the control and ownership of the Crown, in the case of the British. Back in 1915, there was no authority to grant anyone any mandate, neither was any required. The British owned the Levant. There was no League of Nations or UN to grant any mandate. What nonsense are you fabricating?
As for this 'right of self-determination'... This is an example of what is called an 'ex post facto' application of a principle, ie retroactively applying a law which was non-existant in the past. In the early days of the post WWI period, there was no self determination, which is the opposite of colonialism. Back in 1915 when the British defeated the Ottomans, that was still the colonial era, where people and lands came under the victorious Empire. Self-determination, is the right of people or nations to determine their own future and government, and that only started after the UN in 1945, and this is when the British released Palestine and partitioned it.
Nobody stole any land. The British defeated the Ottoman Empire and inherited al their land and took control of it.
@no1marauder saidThe UN only came into being in 1945.
From the General Assembly resolution declaring the Partition Plan:
"Recommends to the United Kingdom, as the
mandatory Power for Palestine, and to all other
Members of the United Nations the adoption and
implementation, with regard to the future gov
emment of Palestine, of the Plan of Partition with
Economic Union set out below;"
"Calls upon t ...[text shortened]... t this plan into effect;"
https://documents.un.org/doc/resolution/gen/nr0/038/88/pdf/nr003888.pdf
The British took control of the Levant and Palestine. in 1918 at the end of WWI.
@Rajk999 saidYou are incredibly historically ignorant and it is almost completely useless to talk to someone as proudly devoid of knowledge as you are.
Woodrow Wilson, the then President of the US was the leading architect of the League of Nations. The received a Nobel Peace Prize for his work in setting it up. They did not join because of the Treaty of Versailles which stopped them.
In the days of conquest Colonial powers fought over land and did not need anyone to grant them ownership. Wars won automatically meant lan ...[text shortened]... y land. The British defeated the Ottoman Empire and inherited al their land and took control of it.
To cure your ignorance, read this: https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp
Self-determination is a right that long existed before the UN. Maybe this will help though I doubt it in your case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination
Your last statement is completely false; Turkey and Allies signed the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923 - it did not cede "all their land". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Lausanne
Seriously have you ever even opened a history book (the Bible doesn't count)?
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@Rajk999 saidSo what? Read the Mandate, fool:
The UN only came into being in 1945.
The British took control of the Levant and Palestine. in 1918 at the end of WWI.
"Whereas His Britannic Majesty has accepted the mandate in respect of Palestine and undertaken to exercise it on behalf of the League of Nations in conformity with the following provisions; "
"ART. 24.
The Mandatory shall make to the Council of the League of Nations an annual report to the satisfaction of the Council as to the measures taken during the year to carry out the provisions of the mandate. Copies of all laws and regulations promulgated or issued during the year shall be communicated with the report."
"ART. 25.
In the territories lying between the Jordan and the eastern boundary of Palestine as ultimately determined, the Mandatory shall be entitled, with the consent of the Council of the League of Nations, to postpone or withhold application of such provisions of this mandate as he may consider inapplicable to the existing local conditions, and to make such provision for the administration of the territories as he may consider suitable to those conditions, provided that no action shall be taken which is inconsistent with the provisions of Articles 15, 16 and 18."
"ART. 27.
The consent of the Council of the League of Nations is required for any modification of the terms of this mandate."
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp
@no1marauder saidWhy are you accepting that the League of Nations created a British mandate over Palestine, and yet you refuse to accept that the same body or the UN, decided on a Partition Plan for Palestine.
So what? Read the Mandate, fool:
"Whereas His Britannic Majesty has accepted the mandate in respect of Palestine and undertaken to exercise it on behalf of the League of Nations in conformity with the following provisions; "
"ART. 24.
The Mandatory shall make to the Council of the League of Nations an annual report to the satisfaction of the Council as to the measu ...[text shortened]... fication of the terms of this mandate.[/b]"
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/palmanda.asp
You are playing with words. The British took Palestine from the Ottoman Empire in 1918 after WWI. They could have done with it whatver they wanted because there was no League of Nation at that time. The mandate is just another way to say 'you are in charge', and 'report to me'. Its legal mumbo jumbo.
In the end the UN decided on a Partition Plan. Why do you not accept that?
The Jews accepted. The Arabs refused. Thats their tough luck.
There was no land stealing.
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@Rajk999 saidAs the quotes I showed prove, the UN General Assembly decided to recommend a plan. And they did it through a Resolution which is:
Why are you accepting that the League of Nations created a British mandate over Palestine, and yet you refuse to accept that the same body or the UN, decided on a Partition Plan for Palestine.
You are playing with words. The British took Palestine from the Ottoman Empire in 1918 after WWI. They could have done with it whatver they wanted because there was no League of Na ...[text shortened]... hat?
The Jews accepted. The Arabs refused. Thats their tough luck.
There was no land stealing.
"With the exception of decisions regarding payments to the regular and peacekeeping budgets of the UN, General Assembly resolutions/decisions are not binding for Member States. "
https://ask.un.org/faq/1448
The parties were free to accept or decline it. You don't want to know how many UN General Assembly Resolutions Israel is in defiance of.
@Rajk999 saidYou are a liar. They stole land. The British promised the Levant to the Palestinians and betrayed them and installed puppet governments in the region. The allied powers were imperialists who dominated their colonies in very brutal ways. One of those mandates from the League of Nations gave Belgium the Congo and Rwanda. Look at what Leopold did.
The League of Nations was established around 1920 by the USA. The UN replaced it around 1945. The Partition Plan was approved by the UN and came into effect in 1948, when the British left Palestine.
There was no stealing of land. Colonial Empires were at war in those days and the British overthrew the Ottoman Empire and took control of the Levant area.
It appears you have your own history book so it is pointless to respond further.
https://talkafricana.com/king-leopold-rubber-genocide-in-congo/
The League of Nations was created by the Treaty of Versailles. No one nation created it so you are dismally wrong about everything history it seems. You butcher it at every chance you get to fit your agendas.
War with Iran is not in the interest of the vast majority of Americans. Over 70% of us say we don't want to get involved, but the powers that be are already using our proxy to do it. Israel is just a puppet of the empire. There is no threat to Israel from an Iran that has nuclear weapons. North Korea has had them for a while and they have never used them. Russia has more nukes than any nation and they don't dare use them either.
Only one nation has used nukes on another nation and we all know which country that is. It is just taboo to bring it up when people should.
@Rajk999
The Nakba was land stealing. From the Wikipedia link below:
The Nakba is the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba
Zionists just like to justify ethnically cleansing the Arabs so they can steal their land. They are still doing it in Gaza as we speak. They are continuing to steal land. They are ethnically cleansing Gaza. They don't even hide that they want the land in Gaza for themselves.
And don't say it was different because it was war. War is all about land stealing. How do you think Israel got Gaza? They started a war with Egypt along with the British Empire and their puppet France. It was an unprovoked war of aggression on Egypt. Unless nationalizing the Suez Canal with payment was an act of war.
The British Empire created Israel. The USA funds the Israeli military with free weapons so they are armed to the teeth. Israel is obviously a military surrogate of the empire because aside from that they give nothing back in return.
Trump said he would bomb Iran if they didn't sign the nuclear deal. Israel then bombs Iran. That ain't a coincidence dude. The USA and Britain are both part of the western empire and so is Israel. The empire used their proxy Israel to attack Iran without provocation. There is no evidence Iran was pursing a nuclear weapon. And even if they build one what does it matter? Nobody uses nukes anymore. What good are they?
It is widely accepted that Israel has nuclear weapons. Why would Iran nuke a nuclear Israel and get nuked back? It doesn't make any sense. It is stupid on it's face. It doesn't stand up to common sense analysis. The only reason the USA nuked Japan is because nobody else had nuclear weapons. When the USSR got them that all changed. Nobody uses nukes in war anymore. They are useless now.
@Metal-Brain saidNakba ...serves them right. There was a 2 state solution on the table. They refused and chose war. They got clobbered, and were chased out of Palestine. Good F..king riddance.
@Rajk999
The Nakba was land stealing. From the Wikipedia link below:
The Nakba is the ethnic cleansing of Palestinian Arabs through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society and the suppression of their culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations
https://en.wikiped ...[text shortened]... ns. When the USSR got them that all changed. Nobody uses nukes in war anymore. They are useless now.
Iran threatened to destroy Israel. Israel is removing their nuclear capability and other weapons. Great .. I love it.
Any more questions?