11 Oct 23
"Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”
“You know Hamas, if you look at the history, you’ll find out that Hamas was encouraged and really started by Israel because they wanted Hamas to counteract Yasser Arafat… (Rep. Ron Paul, 2011)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
11 Oct 23
@metal-brain said“There was an old lady who swallowed a fly”
"Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”
“You know Hamas, if you look at the history, you’ll find out that Hamas was encouraged and really started by ...[text shortened]... , 2011)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
But now it’s time to stomp on the spider
@metal-brain saidLike the momma said "I brought you into this world and I can take you out"
"Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”
“You know Hamas, if you look at the history, you’ll find out that Hamas was encouraged and really started by ...[text shortened]... , 2011)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
Anyway that is a stupid argument. Its like people said the US created the Taliban... so what. The Taliban was useful at the time when fighting the Soviet Union. When the time came to disband them, then they need to be disbanded.
11 Oct 23
@rajk999 saidThey're still not disbanded though, are they?
Like the momma said "I brought you into this world and I can take you out"
Anyway that is a stupid argument. Its like people said the US created the Taliban... so what. The Taliban was useful at the time when fighting the Soviet Union. When the time came to disband them, then they need to be disbanded.
You create a monster, you have to live with the consquences. My God, Mary Shelley wrote about it 200 years ago.
13 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidDo you believe people have personal responsibilities for their own actions?
"Let us not forget that it was Israel, which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, “Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO)”
“You know Hamas, if you look at the history, you’ll find out that Hamas was encouraged and really started by ...[text shortened]... , 2011)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815
13 Oct 23
@eintaluj saidCertainly are useful idiots but for Iran and its allied authoritarian regimes
@Metal-Brain
Obviously, HAMAS is at least useful for Netanyahu.
Useful idiots.
13 Oct 23
@kellyjay saidAre you claiming all of the civilians Israel killed are responsible for the Hamas attack?
Do you believe people have personal responsibilities for their own actions?
Why must innocent civilians (half of which are children) die for what Hamas did? Israel created Hamas. Maybe Israel should bomb itself for funding Hamas.
19 Oct 23
@eintaluj saidVery true.
@Metal-Brain
Obviously, HAMAS is at least useful for Netanyahu.
Useful idiots.
Netanyahu is on Record for Supporting and Financing Hamas Terrorists:
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas … This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.”
(Benjamin Netanyahu, statement at a March 2019 meeting of his Likud Party’s Knesset members, Haaretz, October 9, 2023, emphasis added)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/netanyahu-supports-both-hamas-as-well-as-al-qaeda-terrorists/5836901
22 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidIn 2009, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) said on the House floor that Israel ‘encouraged and started Hamas.’
Certainly are useful idiots but for Iran and its allied authoritarian regimes
Paul’s comments came during a speech about ‘blowback’ due to U.S. intervention in the Middle East.
https://wltreport.com/2023/10/08/flashback-ron-paul-hamas-was-started-israel/