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Originally posted by Palynka
I'm not surprised. Google it.
I do not rely on 'Google' for information. Can you not explain what you mean without Google support?

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
I do not rely on 'Google' for information. Can you not explain what you mean without Google support?
Typical. I see you prefer to stay ignorant than to use the tools that internet provides you.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Typical. I see you prefer to stay ignorant than to use the tools that internet provides you.
So just explain to me in your own words what you meant by the 'Law of Returns'; or did you not fully comprehend what you read on the internet?

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
So just explain to me in your own words what you meant by the 'Law of Returns'; or did you not fully comprehend what you read on the internet?
Are you justifying your ignorance by trying to point out that I'm ignorant about it?

How would I google it if I didn't know it existed? It's quite simple really. Visteds already did a nice job of explaining it. I wouldn't dream to attempt to do better than him regarding Jewish issues. Why aren't you reading it?

After all, everyone is ignorant until they decide to learn.

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Originally posted by Palynka
Are you justifying your ignorance by trying to point out that I'm ignorant about it?

How would I google it if I didn't know it existed? It's quite simple really. Visteds already did a nice job of explaining it. I wouldn't dream to attempt to do better than him regarding Jewish issues. Why aren't you reading it?

After all, everyone is ignorant until they decide to learn.
So you are admitting that you do not understand what what you are talking about. If you did you would be able to explain it to others.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
So you are admitting that you do not understand what what you are talking about. If you did you would be able to explain it to others.
What's the point of this? Do I need to prove anything to you? Nope.

I'm done cluttering the forums, if you want to continue to make a fool of yourself, please do it by private messages.

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Originally posted by Palynka
What's the point of this? Do I need to prove anything to you? Nope.

I'm done cluttering the forums, if you want to continue to make a fool of yourself, please do it by private messages.
Having already admitted that you don't know what you are talking about I require nothing more of you. Thank you.

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Originally posted by Nargaguna
Having already admitted that you don't know what you are talking about I require nothing more of you. Thank you.
Yeah - he must be one of the 'bad guys'.

No point listening to what he has to say.

No point finding out anything new.

Safer that way.

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so we're kind of acting out a israeli/palestinian conflict to see if we can learn anything useful about it that way? well, ok, i can see that pride is a major issue.

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Come on folks, lets talk facts here: A Palestinian terrorist (which one) murders an Israeli cabinet minister, the Israelis want the guy but the Palestinians refuse to hand him over. The Palestinians enlist the support of UK and US, which is far too readily given, to protect their jail. The Palestinians then get fed up of being peaceful and issue death threats to the UK and US guards. The guards leave and the Israelis come along and capture the murderer. The Palestinians then blame UK and US for pulling out and mob British interests, attacking small children and burning the Consul buildings. This act of war goes uncondemned by the wishy-washy Jack Straw and the Palestinians have once more got away with their culture of violence.
This incident is the rule, not the exception, to use Redmike's model, the Israelis are the "good guys" and the Palestinians are the "bad guys", the ones who propound violence and commit acts of terrorism and war.

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Come on folks, lets talk facts here: A Palestinian terrorist (which one) murders an Israeli cabinet minister, the Israelis want the guy but the Palestinians refuse to hand him over. The Palestinians enlist the support of UK and US, which is far too readily given, to protect their jail. The Palestinians then get fed up of being peaceful and issue de ...[text shortened]... ns are the "bad guys", the ones who propound violence and commit acts of terrorism and war.
the jail incident is just one incident in a continuous string of retalliatory violence back and forth. it makes no more sense to say that the jail incident is the norm than it does to say that israeli soldiers killing palestinian children in the streets is the norm. i seem to hear about many more innocent palestinians getting killed through israeli air strikes or snipers than i do about innocent israelis getting killed by "terrorists." if you look at the total number of casualties on both sides, you'll see that far more palestinians are killed than israelis. no one denies that this is the case. in other words, the only way to view the israelis as somehow being morally superior is to say that palestinian lives aren't worth as much. unfortunately, i think that is exactly the mentality of (white) people in the west. this perception is helped along nicely by our media. tell me, when was the last time our enemy wasn't portrayed as despicable? we used to liken the japanese to insects in ww2 and pretend we were rooting out an infestation.

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Originally posted by nomind
tell me, when was the last time our enemy wasn't portrayed as despicable?
dumb ass. I know this will be hard for you... having no mind and all, but an enemy wouldn't be an enemy if they were not "despicable" or even "vile" or "base".

Get a clue. An enemy by definition "needs to be killed". Duh. You probably think that is "horrible".

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Come on folks, lets talk facts here: A Palestinian terrorist (which one) murders an Israeli cabinet minister, the Israelis want the guy but the Palestinians refuse to hand him over. The Palestinians enlist the support of UK and US, which is far too readily given, to protect their jail. The Palestinians then get fed up of being peaceful and issue de ...[text shortened]... ns are the "bad guys", the ones who propound violence and commit acts of terrorism and war.
Or, alternatively:

The israeli's make accusations against a leading Palestinian politician. They asked the Palestinians to hand hinm over. The Palestinians ask for some evidence (the norm when dealing with an extradition request). The israelis provide none, but instead surround the president's headquarters with tanks and shoot his staff.

As a compromise, the Palestinians agree too incarcerate their own politician, despite the absence of any evidence, with international security guards (UK and US).

These international guards decide to walk away, alerting the israelis 1st, who promptly roll up with their tanks and helicopters, trash the place and 'get their man'.

Your knowledge of midle east poitics is on a par with your irish geography.

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
dumb ass. I know this will be hard for you... having no mind and all, but an enemy wouldn't be an enemy if they were not "despicable" or even "vile" or "base".

Get a clue. An enemy by definition "needs to be killed". Duh. You probably think that is "horrible".
Yes, but only if we accept them as an enemy in the first place.

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Originally posted by Redmike
Yes, but only if we accept them as an enemy in the first place.
Right. It is rather simple that way. I completely agree with you.

Who'd a thunk? Two mikes agreeing on anything.

The point is that "PC" speech and thought allow dim bulbs like nomind to blather on about "big issues" never having a clue that the Israelis and Palestinians are "Enemies" of the first order.

edit...svw grins a bit trying to imagine redmike working out the logic of "accepting as an enemy" an.. enemy.