Originally posted by RedmikeWell I lived there for three years, in Jerusalem, have you actually been there, ever? I you had you would notice that the percentage of christians v muslim goes down every year, they have to move out or be ostricized or convert to islam. There is no happy tolerance of other religions there. Bethleham used to have a christian majority, now less than ten percent, having been basically bullied out.
You really have no idea.
Israel is by no means a secular state. Amongst other things, only people of one faith are accepted as immigrants.
On the other hand, something like 14% of all Arabs living in israel are christians, of various flavours.
Originally posted by sonhousePot, meet kettle.
Well I lived there for three years, in Jerusalem, have you actually been there, ever? I you had you would notice that the percentage of christians v muslim goes down every year, they have to move out or be ostricized or convert to islam. There is no happy tolerance of other religions there. Bethleham used to have a christian majority, now less than ten percent, having been basically bullied out.
Originally posted by TetsujinBy that you mean you think I am christian and therefore anti-Islam?
Pot, meet kettle.
Nothing, NOTHING, could be further from the truth if thats what you are implying. I hate both religions equally. The very idea that god would create a planet where people are free to murder one another based on whether they belong to the same religion or not seems to have been invented by christians and taken up enthusiastically by muslims. Go ahead and tell me all the great work they do and all the tolerance supposedly held by both faiths and tell me why god would want, no DEMAND, a couple to be stoned to death because they are married to other people. Just what reason would a god give a crap about some human's sex lives? Why would god decide men are by their devine right to have the right to decide what happens to the lives of women? So women are lesser in gods eye? I spit on both your religions, your SOCALLED religions for bringing up children in a world filled with such hate and fear, and this a demand of god? Both of your groups claim to be the only god so tell me again why a god would set up such a sick system? Could it be because god is INSANE? Could it be maybe there is no god, only people convincing other people to believe all the putrid crap they can think up just to build a power base built on the deaths of millions? And you call ME kettle calling the pot black.
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Originally posted by sonhouseIn Jerusalem, the problem isn't about muslims booting out christians.
Well I lived there for three years, in Jerusalem, have you actually been there, ever? I you had you would notice that the percentage of christians v muslim goes down every year, they have to move out or be ostricized or convert to islam. There is no happy tolerance of other religions there. Bethleham used to have a christian majority, now less than ten percent, having been basically bullied out.
The problem is with property being bought up by jewish people, with contracts which specify that it can only be sold on to other jewish people.
As usual, the problem is zionist expansion.
In Bethlehem, where I understood the christian population to be at about 20%, part of the reason for the change is a redrawing of the municipal boundaries, taking in a couple of refugee camps. So, the actual population of Bethlehem appears to have gone up by more than 50%.
For some reason, most of the refugees where muslim - can't imagine why.
Originally posted by RedmikeFor some details on Jerusalem, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Jerusalem
In Jerusalem, the problem isn't about muslims booting out christians.
The problem is with property being bought up by jewish people, with contracts which specify that it can only be sold on to other jewish people.
As usual, the problem is zionist expansion.
In Bethlehem, where I understood the christian population to be at about 20%, part of the rea ...[text shortened]... up by more than 50%.
For some reason, most of the refugees where muslim - can't imagine why.
However, the details for some years just have numbers for Jews and non-Jews, there's no split between other religions. (Who said israel was a secular state?).
But you'll get the picture.
Originally posted by sonhouseOh dear...
By that you mean you think I am christian and therefore anti-Islam?
Nothing, NOTHING, could be further from the truth if thats what you are implying. I hate both religions equally. The very idea that god would create a planet where people are free to murder one another based on whether they belong to the same religion or not seems to have been invented by ...[text shortened]... ild a power base built on the deaths of millions? And you call ME kettle calling the pot black.
I tried to grab that little pearldrop of a statement you made previously, ...something about being bullied out of your home.
Though I regret to inform you that you are wrong in many of the things you mentioned about both religions, If ear this is neither the time nor the place to issue some sort of a lecture on the matter.
How (for instance) Christians view their God and how Mulsims view God*.
*Notice the lack of a certain possesive adjective.