Originally posted by HalitoseIt's hard to imagine that there was once a time when they lived in peace...
Having brought a toothpick to a gunfight, you've been soundly beaten. You're not fooling anyone, by being the banal self-proclaimed winner.
*sigh*
BTW, when in doubt, look the f0cking thing up yourself. Give the other person the benefit of the doubt that they have a reasonable counter argument and are not articulate enough to present it.
It's no excuse for bigotry.
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Originally posted by NargagunaYou don't gather much do you?
Another of your foul-mouthed postings. So why should the Israelis take in every asylum seeker? I gather that Pakistan does not particularly welcome those from Afghanistan.
Pakistan doesn't have the capital, or technology, to police the huge border between it and Afghanistan. But nevertheless, in good faith it does allow thousands of afghan refugees to reside on it's side of the border until the slow process of immigration sorts things out.
In recent years, there are fears that militant groups are using the border to cross back and forth and evade the armies after them.
Don't start with me on pakistan. It's been through shit for the 59 years it has existed, and continually backstabbed by the US.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyso it just so happens that the ol' u.s. of a. is always on the side of justice and rightousness? maybe someone can be an enemy not because they're despicable but because they sit upon some resource that we need. -or- in your world picture, america is god's favorite country and is always on the side of truth and justice and as such america's enemies are always bad guys. all people paint a picture of their enemy as being the vile oppressors. are you seriously suggesting that america alone through all of time is always right in such portrayals? or are you merely stating the obvious that of course, in the business of war, the enemy is always portaryed as despicable? if that is the case, you're not telling me anything new.
dumb ass. I know this will be hard for you... having no mind and all, but an enemy wouldn't be an enemy if they were not "despicable" or even "vile" or "base".
Get a clue. An enemy by definition "needs to be killed". Duh. You probably think that is "horrible".
Originally posted by TetsujinNon sequitur
It's hard to imagine that there was once a time when they lived in peace...
*sigh*
BTW, when in doubt, look the f0cking thing up yourself. Give the other person the benefit of the doubt that they have a reasonable counter argument and are not articulate enough to present it.
It's no excuse for bigotry.
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Originally posted by nomindYou are quite eloquent. You hate the US of A.
so it just so happens that the ol' u.s. of a. is always on the side of justice and rightousness? maybe someone can be an enemy not because they're despicable but because they sit upon some resource that we need. -or- in your world picture, america is god's favorite country and is always on the side of truth and justice and as such america's enemies are alwa ...[text shortened]... s always portaryed as despicable? if that is the case, you're not telling me anything new.
So? I don't. I rather like myself.
In my world picture, there ain't any gods or ghosts or goblins.
In my world picture, I buy the stuff I need and I don't buy the stuff I don't need. That's pretty simple. If you need "resources" then buy them for yourself like I do. I'm not interested in anybody's religious zealotry concerning "the environment" and "earth". I'm a greedy bastard and I like it that way.
As to your question about "War" and "Enemies". I don't even know where to begin. I want my enemies killed. Dead. Deceased. Ended. I don't want them to contact their agent named "Bob" either.
The reason I want them dead is because I don't agree with them and we are ENEMIES.
Even you should begin to get this concept at some point.
edit... Let me guess. I'm the first person you ever met that truly doesn't have "potential" for goodness? You'll live. It's not a fatal discovery.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyi don't doubt for a second that you want your enemies dead. that's how weak, scared people tend to feel. i do doubt that you have ever served in the military though, and i imagine you have no plans to do so any time soon. so how are you going to accomplish the task of making your enemies dead? by letting someone else fight for you? something tells me that's probably the smartest thing you could do. proudly admitting some of your shorcomings doesn't turn them into virtues.
You are quite eloquent. You hate the US of A.
So? I don't. I rather like myself.
In my world picture, there ain't any gods or ghosts or goblins.
In my world picture, I buy the stuff I need and I don't buy the stuff I don't need. That's pretty simple. If you need "resources" then buy them for yourself like I do. I'm not interested in anybody's r ...[text shortened]... "potential" for goodness? You'll live. It's not a fatal discovery.
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Originally posted by nomindI rather think it is a clever thing to do... to let others accomplish my goals for me. I do support them with money and word and deed. I stick up for them against people who hate the "good old us of a".
i don't doubt for a second that you want your enemies dead. that's how weak, scared people tend to feel. i do doubt that you have ever served in the military though, and i imagine you have no plans to do so any time soon. so how are you going to accomplish the task of making your enemies dead? by letting someone else fight for you? something tells me tha ng you could do. proudly admitting some of your shorcomings doesn't turn them into virtues.
As to admitting my shortcomings. Remember your rabid endorsement of my post that "the problem is that nobody can agree on what is good and what is bad when OPINION is concerned" ?
My "shortcomings" are just your opinion of me, just as your "shortdickings" are my opinion of you. Let's just agree that we won't ever agree on this and that we are now free to be enemies. It saves a lot of time and wasted energy to forego all the shouting and hoopla that leads up to this realization.
So. Now we are enemies. ....
ho hum. Now what? I know! I'll talk to my buddies in the marines and see if they want to kill you for me. Wish me luck.
edit... lol. In case you miss it.. I wasn't "admitting" my shortcomings. I was bragging about having them. I worked hard to remove the conditioning that comes with your kind of brainwipe. I did it. So can you.
Originally posted by StarValleyWymy dad could beat up your dad.
I rather think it is a clever thing to do... to let others accomplish my goals for me. I do support them with money and word and deed. I stick up for them against people who hate the "good old us of a".
As to admitting my shortcomings. Remember your rabid endorsement of my post that "the problem is that nobody can agree on what is good and what is ba ...[text shortened]... ove the conditioning that comes with your kind of brainwipe. I did it. So can you.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyYou know, Mike, I truly respect both your honesty and humor. Often, I agree with you. Even when I don’t—at least initially—your posts challenge my thinking. And that is no BS.
You are quite eloquent. You hate the US of A.
So? I don't. I rather like myself.
In my world picture, there ain't any gods or ghosts or goblins.
In my world picture, I buy the stuff I need and I don't buy the stuff I don't need. That's pretty simple. If you need "resources" then buy them for yourself like I do. I'm not interested in anybody's r ...[text shortened]... "potential" for goodness? You'll live. It's not a fatal discovery.
I have a small disagreement here, though. I don’t need my enemies dead—I just need them removed from the category of enemy. Surety is always a question there, I realize. (It strikes me, though, that you may be defining enemies more strictly than I am.)
I also don’t need to hate or demonize my enemies (not saying you do, but some do). That, of course, may be a tactic for forging alliances, garnering temporary support, etc.—one that history seems to show can backfire. For example, if Peachy’s position (and I might be mis-stating it here) is that Israel as an entity must go (and the Jews there with it?), period—as opposed to a two-state solution, of whatever parameters—then he and I will likely become enemies, after a fashion, since I doubt we would ever meet. We will be on opposing sides.
It’s part of the perhaps contradictory nature of my make-up that, with friends I tend to have strong emotional ties (even with friends who disagree with and dislike each other)—but when it comes to an actual enemy, I have no real emotion whatsoever; just carefulness in identifying who they are, and strategy for how to deal with the situation. I might even like and respect them in some ways. But, if threatened—and especially if, say, my wife is threatened—I can become terribly “cold-blooded,” despite my monistic (Zen, Taoism, Vedanta, Sufi, Hasidism, etc.) spirituality. (I, too, have read Sun Tzu—in several translations.)
Maybe it helps to distinguish between an opponent, with regard to a specific issue, and an enemy in general. I’m just thinking “out loud.” Probably not too clearly either. Back to my Israel/Palestine research...
