@spruce112358 saidTerrorist states should have no weapons. Israel should bomb every nuclear facillity and all weapons factories, bombs storage areas, fighter jets, tanks etc.
It’s absolutely justified for Iran to get a nuclear weapon. 😆
Now you answer a question: Has the last 80 years of Israeli treatment of Palestinians up to today been justified? Yes or no. 😆
Palestinians are suffering due to their own stupidity and poor decision making. There was a viable 2-state solution on the table in 1948, they rejected that and chose war instead, because of greed and hatred. So whatever happened to them since 1948, is their own fault. I know you love rewriting the history of those events but here is the truth from Perplexity ..
The response of the Arab states to the United Nations Partition Plan of 1947 (UN General Assembly Resolution 181) was overwhelmingly negative. The plan, which proposed dividing Mandatory Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab states with an internationalized Jerusalem, was accepted by Jewish leaders but firmly rejected by Arab leaders and the Palestinian Arab leadership.
Key Reactions from Arab States:
Rejection of the Plan:
The Arab Higher Committee (representing Palestinian Arabs) and the Arab League (comprising Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen) vehemently opposed the partition, arguing that it violated the rights of the Arab majority in Palestine. They viewed the plan as an unjust imposition by Western powers, favoring Jewish immigrants at the expense of the indigenous Arab population.
Diplomatic Opposition:
Arab states lobbied against the plan at the UN, but it was approved on November 29, 1947, with 33 in favor, 13 against (including all Arab and Muslim-majority states), and 10 abstentions.
Outbreak of Violence:
After the UN vote, civil war broke out in Palestine (1947–48) between Jewish and Arab militias. Arab states supported Palestinian Arab forces, including the Arab Liberation Army, in fighting against Jewish militias like the Haganah.
Military Intervention (1948 Arab-Israeli War):
When Israel declared independence on May 14, 1948, neighboring Arab states (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon) invaded the next day, aiming to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state and to support Palestinian Arabs. The war resulted in Israel's survival and expansion beyond the UN-proposed borders, while Jordan occupied the West Bank and Egypt took control of Gaza.
Long-Term Consequences:
The rejection of the partition plan and the subsequent war led to the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs (Nakba) and solidified the Arab-Israeli conflict. Arab states continued to refuse recognition of Israel for decades, maintaining a state of war and supporting Palestinian resistance.
@spruce112358 saidHow exactly is Israel terrorising anyone. Arabs have bombed school busses, pizza parlours, malls, killed Olympic sportsmen, hijacked planes, and this last attack on Oct 7th was the last straw. So the Jews are destroying Gaza.
Then Israel needs to be disarmed. 😆
Israel is terrorizing a fraction of the population they control. 😆
How excactly did Israel do?
@spruce112358 saidI listed some of the stuff Arabs did.
Be serious. 😆
List some of the stuff the Jews did to Arabs.
@Rajk999 saidIsraeli Jews took Ashdod and Ashkelon from the Arab Palestinians.
I listed some of the stuff Arabs did.
List some of the stuff the Jews did to Arabs.
@AThousandYoung saidAshdod and Askelon did not belong to the Arab Palestinians.
Israeli Jews took Ashdod and Ashkelon from the Arab Palestinians.
@spruce112358 saidObviously, there can't be a "yes" or "no" answer to a question that spans 8 decades of conduct.
It’s absolutely justified for Iran to get a nuclear weapon. 😆
Now you answer a question: Has the last 80 years of Israeli treatment of Palestinians up to today been justified? Yes or no. 😆
Some of Israel's conduct has been wrong. Most of it has been fine. Most of the Palestinian suffering has been brought on by Hamas and their ilk.
Israel's conduct towards the Palestinians has been far better than the Palestinians' treatments of Israelis. There's merely a power asymmetry that masks that fact.
@sh76 saidThen explain the Stern Gang.
Obviously, there can't be a "yes" or "no" answer to a question that spans 8 decades of conduct.
Some of Israel's conduct has been wrong. Most of it has been fine. Most of the Palestinian suffering has been brought on by Hamas and their ilk.
Israel's conduct towards the Palestinians has been far better than the Palestinians' treatments of Israelis. There's merely a power asymmetry that masks that fact.
@sh76 saidThey are enriching Uranium beyond that needed for a nuclear energy program for leverage. Leverage to get sanctions relief so their people can get medicine to save their lives. Believe it or not sanctions kill people.
You didn't respond to the question of why Iran would accept crippling sanctions for many years to keep administering a nuclear program if it were not for its intent to seek nuclear weapons.
Edit: In any case, the question of how far along in the process they are or whether they're actually at the stage of building a bomb isn't the point. Everyone seems to agree that Iran is e ...[text shortened]... ice summary.
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/06/trump-gabbard-comments-on-iran-nuclear-capability/
Iran did that in a vain attempt to save lives. Why sanctions against Cuba? Is the USA afraid of a communist takeover of the USA? LOL!
Lehi tried to ally with Nazi Germany. Know your history.
@Metal-Brain saidThere were loads of Arabs gangs in Palestine prior to 1948. As usual they are disorganised, poorly equipped and therefore incompetent morons. They made a nusiance of themselves.
Then explain the Stern Gang.
The Jews had gangs fighting Arabs but the Jews were productive. They were building settlements, assisting the British with essential utilities and in a nutshell they were building their homeland.
@Metal-Brain saidThe Shah was a progressive and pro west, and did not abuse the citizens
Then why are so many Jews living in Iran with content?
And why did Iran and Israel have such good relations while the Shah was in power?
The Ayatollah is brain-dead Islamic extremist, who has committed loads of human rights violations.
@Rajk999 saidThe Stern Gang admitted they carried out terrorist acts against the British (the very people that once encouraged Jewish migration to Palestine) because they limited Jewish migration.
There were loads of Arabs gangs in Palestine prior to 1948. As usual they are disorganised, poorly equipped and therefore incompetent morons. They made a nusiance of themselves.
The Jews had gangs fighting Arabs but the Jews were productive. They were building settlements, assisting the British with essential utilities and in a nutshell they were building their homeland.
The Stern Gang also tried to ally themselves with fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.