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@suzianne saidYes, there is no question in my mind, that, when a girl meets up with a guy, no matter the occasion, they could be in church, she knows that she is in charge of the when-and-how of sex, and she is the partner that allows it. Institutes it, if you will. She can predict the future. She knows if there will be sex between them. He might not know that,,,but, she does.
Do you really think you can claim ignorance as a defense?
Why do you claim that women chose pregnancy when they choose to have sex?
Do men choose pregnancy when they have sex?
You act like contraception doesn't exist.
All you "pro-life" people should be out handing out contraception to everyone (that is if you really were pro-life and not just anti-women).
Why doesn't the Texas Taliban just outlaw sex? We know why, don't we?
So, she makes a choice. She has had plenty of time to think about it, 3 minutes is actually enough. Do you think
she does not consider that impregnation could occur, and to prepare for it? Of course she does. Then she chooses (libs hate that concept) to allow the process to go forward .
Suzianne, somewhere in here the girl is taking a chance that she will become pregnant (if she does not practice birth control). I will 'take a chance' on buying some shares of Apple tomorrow. She is hoping that she won't get pregnant, and I am hoping the stock will go up on Tuesday.
We both take a chance. I consider that if she becomes pregnant, it was her choice to possibly become pregnant. Maybe even a bit of 'Oh, what the heck..." If I make a choice to cross the street, I will deserve whatever the result of my crossing will bring. I 'hope' I dont get hit by a car.
How bout a cogent response. Please don't get angry.
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@averagejoe1 saidThe worst thing I could imagine for you is to live as a woman in the world you have made. Maybe then you'll understand. Until then, I doubt it. You'll always have someone to blame, to use, to scapegoat.
Yes, there is no question in my mind, that, when a girl meets up with a guy, no matter the occasion, they could be in church, she knows that she is in charge of the when-and-how of sex, and she is the partner that allows it. Institutes it, if you will. She can predict the future. She knows if there will be sex between them. He might not know that,,,but, she does.
...[text shortened]... ll bring. I 'hope' I dont get hit by a car.
How bout a cogent response. Please don't get angry.
On the other hand, I like being a woman. Mainly because I make sure that no one, especially a man, owns me. Most aren't as lucky.
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@suzianne saidBut this does not respond to my premise. Am I wrong with my opinion? That women choose to get present, OR, to not get pregnant. They choose, They choose.
The worst thing I could imagine for you is to live as a woman in the world you have made. Maybe then you'll understand. Until then, I doubt it. You'll always have someone to blame.
As I pointed out, the woman chooses. The man does not choose to impregnate her, he chooses to have sex. In that process, she has a choice of her own to make, does she not? This is a question to you.
Your remark about blame has no basis.
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@averagejoe1 saidI should have known better than to think a Republican man could feel empathy.
But this does not respond to my premise. Am I wrong with my opinion? That women choose to get present, OR, to not get pregnant. They choose, They choose.
As I pointed out, the woman chooses. The man does not choose to impregnate her, he chooses to have sex. In that process, she has a choice of her own to make, does she not? This is a question to you.
Your remark about blame has no basis.
The Texas legislature is removing a woman's right to choose. Apparently, even though a woman may choose, she doesn't always get her way, does she?
And you think that's just peachy.
@AverageJoe1
OF COURSE you don't get it AND you never will, once a white nationalist, always a white nationalist, besides the racist thing, you want ultimate control of all the women in your influence.
So, back to 1821. Even 1921 was better than what is going on now.
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@suzianne saidthe republican legislature is giving babies the right to live.
I should have known better than to think a Republican man could feel empathy.
The Texas legislature is removing a woman's right to choose. Apparently, even though a woman may choose, she doesn't always get her way, does she?
And you think that's just peachy.
If these women cant control their bodies I am all for sterilization.
@mott-the-hoople saidI think that those members of the male of the human species that continually push for a patriarchal system tend to be those that are generally losers with members of the opposite sex.
the republican legislature is giving babies the right to live.
If these women cant control their bodies I am all for sterilization.
That would be you.
Constantly blathering about women who can't control their bodies.
Or women that can't keep their legs closed.
They seem to be doing ok when you're around, huh ?? 😛
@suzianne saidNo, no, no..You are not answering the issue. A girl chooses to get pregnant, does she not?
I should have known better than to think a Republican man could feel empathy.
The Texas legislature is removing a woman's right to choose. Apparently, even though a woman may choose, she doesn't always get her way, does she?
And you think that's just peachy.
Empathy has absolutely nothing to do with this issue. You must be thinking about Sonhouse and his raging issue about something going on in Texas.
Tha is not the issue on the table.
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@averagejoe1 saidNo No No !!!!!
No, no, no..You are not answering the issue. A girl chooses to get pregnant, does she not?
Empathy has absolutely nothing to do with this issue. You must be thinking about Sonhouse and his raging issue about something going on in Texas.
Tha is not the issue on the table.
An unplanned pregnancy means a woman has not chosen to get pregnant !!
Abortions happen because of unplanned pregnancies !!
Women choose to get pregnant so they can go to an abortion clinic ?????
How do you get into that mindset ?? What is wrong with you people ??
Best answer I can come up with is that the mindset that sex is for pro-creation only has been driven into you over and over again.
They teach that at church, don't they ??
@mghrn55 saiddid I hit too close to home for ya?
I think that those members of the male of the human species that continually push for a patriarchal system tend to be those that are generally losers with members of the opposite sex.
That would be you.
Constantly blathering about women who can't control their bodies.
Or women that can't keep their legs closed.
They seem to be doing ok when you're around, huh ?? 😛
@mghrn55 saidYou are a bit off-track, you are suffering from Suzianne-itis.
No No No !!!!!
An unplanned pregnancy means a woman has not chosen to get pregnant !!
Abortions happen because of unplanned pregnancies !!
Women choose to get pregnant so they can go to an abortion clinic ?????
How do you get into that mindset ?? What is wrong with you people ??
Best answer I can come up with is that the mindset that sex is for pro-creation only has been driven into you over and over again.
They teach that at church, don't they ??
First, true to what I have been pointing our for a LONG time, you are adding a NEW issue to this simple issue. The word 'Unplanned'. What in the hell? What do you mean by that? It is not mentioned herein above. Shall we all stop the issue and write about a girl who, knowing how she can get pregnant, CHOOOSES to have sex, and hope impregnation does not happen? MGMH.... She does not PLAN to get pregnant. Right. I step out in the street, no plan to get hit by a car, but I get hit by a car. Unplanned. Stupid of me, right? So, Unplanned pregnancy by being stupid, unplanned car hit by being stupid.
THEN you say abortions happen because of unplanned pregnancies. No, (Suzy would call this a lie) they happen for other reasons.
So, where are we? We are certainly not talking about procreation, another new word for us to puzzle over. Procreating would come at birthing time....We are talking many months before that.
So,, might we clear the air and begin at point A. A girl chooses to get pregnant. How much more clear can I post it???
@sonhouse saidOn the other hand, Sonhouse, conservatives have always queried the penchant of liberals to circumvent, ignore or break laws. Even Biden has done this.
@AverageJoe1
OF COURSE you don't get it AND you never will, once a white nationalist, always a white nationalist, besides the racist thing, you want ultimate control of all the women in your influence.
So, back to 1821. Even 1921 was better than what is going on now.
Now, you are in lock step, as you suggest that doctors should not follow the law about abortion in Texas? It is the law. Do you not
get the nuance of debate? And what is the racist thing? You are a hard one to follow.
Did you see where Suzianne, for instance, is literally dancing all around a one sentence question...... She calls me Richard Nixon and stuff like that.
@AverageJoe1
The issue was your inability to put yourself in a woman's shoes.
You think women have control over who impregnates them but a good number of them are being raped but that means nothing to a white nationalist control freak like you.
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@averagejoe1 saidThe whole pro-life movement (aka charade) is based on when life begins.
Your post is what? When to drive or drink or get married is already a traditional practice.
I don't see a connection with the time worn rules of society, and your sayihg they will begin after abortions are banned???
So.........when would that be ?? I heard so far detection of first heartbeat.
What date should be on your driver's license ? Birth certificate ? etc, etc, etc ......
You see.....the problem with a pro-patriarchal, anti promiscuity movement disguised as a pro-life movement is that you don't see the greater picture past the tip of your nose. Which is probably buried in a Bible anyways.
Apologize if I've bewildered you. 😛