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    26 Mar '17 16:12
    Originally posted by vivify
    You're trying to imply that Obamacare favors insurance companies, right? That's a false argument, given that many companies have claimed to lose money under the ACA (due to having to cover sicker people).
    Originally Obama was trying to give money to insurance companies to subsidize them even more. Without the additional funds the exchanges will implode, but people are still being forced to buy insurance, more than they would normally buy.

    Why would Democrats funnel Americans into Insurance companies?

    Just because the people who wrote the bill were inept, it does not change what they tried to do.
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    26 Mar '17 17:01
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Originally Obama was trying to give money to insurance companies to subsidize them even more. Without the additional funds the exchanges will implode, but people are still being forced to buy insurance, more than they would normally buy.

    Why would Democrats funnel Americans into Insurance companies?

    Just because the people who wrote the bill were inept, it does not change what they tried to do.
    You're still trying to imply that Obama was providing favors for health insurance companies; a false claim, since they've been losing money due to having to cover more and sicker people.
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    26 Mar '17 17:071 edit
    Originally posted by vivify
    You're still trying to imply that Obama was providing favors for health insurance companies; a false claim, since they've been losing money due to having to cover more and sicker people.
    If he wanted to help sick people the single payer was the way to go.

    He chose to force everyone to buy insurance.
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    26 Mar '17 17:21
    Originally posted by Eladar
    If he wanted to help sick people the single payer was the way to go.

    He chose to force everyone to buy insurance.
    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/jul/12/carlos-beruff/are-you-being-forced-government-health-care-nope/

    No, you're still not being forced 'to buy government health care'

    PolitiFact is very familiar with inaccurate statements about the health care law. In fact, four out of seven PolitiFact Lies of the Year have been related to the Affordable Care Act, including that the 2010 law was a "government takeover of health care."

    The Lie of the Year in 2010 debunked statements that suggested the Affordable Care Act represented a "government takeover of health care." The main finding was that the plan would increase government regulation, but it would continue to rely on private insurers to provide coverage for most Americans.
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    26 Mar '17 18:08
    Originally posted by vivify
    http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2016/jul/12/carlos-beruff/are-you-being-forced-government-health-care-nope/

    No, you're still not being forced 'to buy government health care'

    PolitiFact is very familiar with inaccurate statements about the health care law. In fact, four out of seven PolitiFact Lies of the Year have been related to the ...[text shortened]... ut it would continue to rely on private insurers to provide coverage for most Americans.
    Why quote fake news?

    Because it is what you believe is absolutely true.

    Got it.
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    26 Mar '17 18:292 edits
    Originally posted by Eladar
    Why quote fake news?

    Because it is what you believe is absolutely true.

    Got it.
    PolitiFact (a well-reputed fact-checking site) is fake news now? LMA0. You live a sad life of denial.

    EDIT:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoodman/2014/08/12/the-obamacare-mandate-isnt-forcing-people-to-buy-health-insurance-after-all/#1d75f3e34ceb

    "The Obamacare Mandate Isn't Forcing People To Buy Health Insurance After All"

    Is Forbes also "fake news"?
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    26 Mar '17 18:54
    Originally posted by vivify
    PolitiFact (a well-reputed fact-checking site) is fake news now? LMA0. You live a sad life of denial.

    EDIT:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoodman/2014/08/12/the-obamacare-mandate-isnt-forcing-people-to-buy-health-insurance-after-all/#1d75f3e34ceb

    "The Obamacare Mandate Isn't Forcing People To Buy Health Insurance After All"

    Is Forbes also "fake news"?
    Yes it is.

    Lefties are such stooges. Establishment news is fake news. Dem and Rep establishment are two sides of the same coin.
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