The earth at the center of the universe is even easier. The only defence you have against that is that the laws of physics are not constant and that the speed of emititons would vary (in a way we cant measure and inconsistantly) in different parts of space, yet everything fits in.
Cool, that was easy....and how do you know that is all true? You have
been to the center and that was what you found?
Kelly
I was thinking about this exchange and I started wondering about
the center of a line of numbers, positive and negative numbers.
At first I was thinking zero, because it stands between all the positive
numbers and the negative ones; however, if there are infinite numbers
on both sides of zero, does it matter where one is on the number line?
There will always be infinite numbers on either side no matter where
we are looking at it. So can there be a real center of a number line?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayBefore I made my post I made one to the effect of "You can spilt a second a infinite amount of times yet it is still a second"
[b]The earth at the center of the universe is even easier. The only defence you have against that is that the laws of physics are not constant and that the speed of emititons would vary (in a way we cant measure and inconsistantly) in different parts of space, yet everything fits in.
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we are looking at it. So can there be a real center of a number line?
Kelly[/b]
Im sure people could try to argue that because the second can be split forever and ever, that the second would never end, but we know it does, little bites of infinity sliding past one by one :-)
Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowReminds me of the crossing the room example.
Before I made my post I made one to the effect of "You can spilt a second a infinite amount of times yet it is still a second"
Im sure people could try to argue that because the second can be split forever and ever, that the second would never end, but we know it does, little bites of infinity sliding past one by one :-)
You start on the right side of the room and move to the left.
You can only move halfway from where you are to the other side each
time you move.
You will always get closer, but never reach the other side of the room.
🙂
Kelly
Perhaps the most frightening and startling thing about "infinity" is that we understand it and use it everyday to do a billion tasks.
Another famous old saying I just made up.
Though the only ones who really use it are those "Blessed Of Math".
I don't. I just write about it.
Edit... So you say. "give me an example". Ok. I say. Every time you catch an eighty-mile-per hour curve ball, your mind integrates and acts. It uses infinity instinctively. Really. The mind has to start somewhere. Calculus of the mind. And we don't even have to understand it to do it. That's the beauty of it all. Now if you are writing a computer program to 'meet me on the far side of the moon'... that's another story. But the problem is the same. The domain that is used by the mind has changed. Nothing else changed. Expand the mind to that domain... you will meet me there on the dark side. Instinctively. Let me know if you figure how to do it. Other than meditation. And Medication. Snark.
Originally posted by KellyJayMathematicians invented the number line, and defined zero as the center, therefore zero is the center. It is not objective reality (assuming such exists); it is a human invention.
I see, okay that clears it up. 🙂
Kelly
The symbol for infinity is a sideways figure 8. The center is where the lines cross.
Inasmuch as infinity equals itself, you cannot travel any further in one direction than the other, so zero must be at the center.
If, as you move an infinite distance to the left only to find that you've found yourself where those moving an infinite distance to the right ended up, then once again you are where the lines cross--in the center (or perhaps at the mirror site of the center).
Ultimately, as all these lines of argument cross, you've gone nowhere, and gained nothing. So zero is the center where all the lines cross.
Originally posted by WulebgrWhich boils down to the mathematicians defined zero as the center
Mathematicians invented the number line, and defined zero as the center, therefore zero is the center. It is not objective reality (assuming such exists); it is a human invention.
The symbol for infinity is a sideways figure 8. The cente ...[text shortened]... d gained nothing. So zero is the center where all the lines cross.
so it is. 🙂 Since there is an equal amount of numbers to the left and
right of every number on the number line.
So I imagine we could if we felt like it, defined earth as the center of
the universe since we are the ones defining it.
Because as far as we know there is an equal distance to infinity
in every direction away from earth.
🙄🙄🙄🙄
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayIf you want to define earth as the center of Infinity I wont argue, but the Universe isnt infinite :-)
Which boils down to the mathematicians defined zero as the center
so it is. 🙂 Since there is an equal amount of numbers to the left and
right of every number on the number line.
So I imagine we could if we felt like it, defined earth ...[text shortened]... to infinity
in every direction away from earth.
🙄🙄🙄🙄
Kelly