@wildgrass saidIt was a joke
How?
BUT
Maybe ban under 25s from marriage - that way they will have had a few opportunities to experience life/people/relationships etc.
I also heard Trump is going to put a tariff on wedding rings which should help
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@MartinS saidMake marriage illegal π
It was a joke
BUT
Maybe ban under 25s from marriage - that way they will have had a few opportunities to experience life/people/relationships etc.
I also heard Trump is going to put a tariff on wedding rings which should help
π
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@wildgrass saidNonsense. People grow and mature; sometimes they grow together for a whole and then grow apart. There is no good reason why marriage should be to one person forever.
You're absolutely right. I think those people should not get married.
If you do get married, it's kinda the whole point to stay in it for life.
@Rajk999 saidIs there any problem in your world that can't be improved by abusing women?
While I am agreeing with you the only way to slow down divorces is to stop it from being a financial windfall for some women. In many developed countries it is the woman [up to 80% of the time], that brings divorce proceedings. Creating more stringent reasons, is not going to help because if you say for eg that adultery is a good reason, she is going to do it, and she is al ...[text shortened]... unt. In the case of kids divorce should be extremely difficult and should never make the woman rich.
@wildgrass saidThese days many women work, so they are all breadwinners. The problem is when the woman is significantly more qualified, and earns significantly more, then that marriage is on shaky ground. She is more likely to seek a divorce eventually. The hypergamy for women is upward, always. That never changes. Men are content with a cute uneducated homemaker type girl with which he can start a family. The woman constantly looks around for someone better than her. When she finds that she will move away from her husband regardless of who gets hurt. Smart men do not get married to women who can out-earn them.
Interesting perspective. I heard a statistic once that females who are breadwinners in a relationship are 2X MORE likely to divorce, but would have to look it up.
Maybe finances play a role, but the irreconcilable differences thing is nonsense.
@wildgrass saidso unless you can prove abuse (and just the ones defined by law, there are countless other ways to abuse someone) in front of a judge one or two adults should be forced into an association against their wishes because of a choice they made 5, 10, 20 years ago? Do you want to ask no1marauder how hard it is to prove abuse sufficiently that a judge grants you divorce? If wives and girlfriends are dead because they couldn't get the law to protect them against psycho husbands and boyfriends how much harder would it be to prove you are simply unhappy in a marriage and it's crushing your soul?
Now here's a Republican idea I can get behind. Divorce should be harder.
Irreconcilable differences is an oxymoron. It should not be considered a legitimate reason to end a marriage. A 10 year old knows this.
Abandonment, abuse, adultery. OK, those are real things.
https://oklahomawatch.org/2025/02/13/is-oklahoma-considering-a-bill-that-could-make-it-harder-for-some-couples-to-get-divorced/
are you forced to see the same doctor you picked 5 years ago? can you change the bar you drink at? can you change your plumber or that too must involve a judge to see if you are free to make your own damn choices ?
the only ones afraid of "too easy divorces" are pathetic weak people unsure their crappy personality is enough to keep their loved ones from leaving them alone
monumentally bad idea you had
@wildgrass saidthe whole point? what would that be?
You're absolutely right. I think those people should not get married.
If you do get married, it's kinda the whole point to stay in it for life.
tell me, what other contract between two people is for life? what would you call an employment contract where you can't leave? can you imagine a contract with a power company where it says you can't ever cancel it unless they blow up your house but both of you can change minor things and it would be up yo a judge to decide if those minor things are major enough?
one more thing. do you have any argument not taken from the bible that a marriage should be for life?
@Zahlanzi saidStatistically, half of men are below median ability to be a "good" partner. This is the same with women - half are below average at being "good partners."
the whole point? what would that be?
tell me, what other contract between two people is for life? what would you call an employment contract where you can't leave? can you imagine a contract with a power company where it says you can't ever cancel it unless they blow up your house but both of you can change minor things and it would be up yo a judge to decide if those m ...[text shortened]... ne more thing. do you have any argument not taken from the bible that a marriage should be for life?
People are also bad at perceiving future risk, so we can assume that these factors are independent. This means:
25% of marriages will feature two "good" partners. Those marriages will be wonderful and last a long time.
50% of marriages will have one "good" and one "bad" partner. The good partner will suffer more in these marriages, which will tend to end early.
25% of marriages will have two "bad" partners, with lots of suffering and probably an quick end.
NOTE: Society takes absolutely no interest in correcting bad behavior WITHIN marriages, and partners are not allowed to correct each other. So bad partners get away with whatever they want and are never punished.
So marriage should be blissful only about 25% of the time. This pretty much matches experience.
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@spruce112358 saidThose are general surveys. Specific surveys among Christians. have shown over and over that the divorce rate among practicing Christians [as opposed to nominal ones], is about 15%. Real Christians understand the reason for marriage and committment. In fact this can be applied to any religious group .. their marriages tend to last longer and often produce well adjusted, well brought up children.
Statistically, half of men are below median ability to be a "good" partner. This is the same with women - half are below average at being "good partners."
People are also bad at perceiving future risk, so we can assume that these factors are independent. This means:
25% of marriages will feature two "good" partners. Those marriages will be wonderful and last a long ...[text shortened]... ]So marriage should be blissful only about 25% of the time. This pretty much matches experience.[/b]
Famiies without God [especially those who ridicule religion] are more likely to be broken, fatherless, with the teenages dropping out of schools, living on the streets, engaging in drugs, crime and prostitution.
@Rajk999 saidOf course. Hillary Clinton addressed the importance of "the village" when it comes to raising children, but the same idea applies to marriages. π
Those are general surveys. Specific surveys among Christians. have shown over and over that the divorce rate among practicing Christians [as opposed to nominal ones], is about 15%. Real Christians understand the reason for marriage and committment. In fact this can be applied to any religious group .. their marriages tend to last longer and often produce well adjusted, wel ...[text shortened]... teenages dropping out of schools, living on the streets, engaging in drugs, crime and prostitution.
Left to themselves, couples will not normally make it because half of individuals are going to be below-average at marriage. Religious groups and/or society can intervene and raise the success rate with advice and correction. π
God, @Rajk999, you are turning into such a liberal - on board with Clinton's ideas!?! π
@spruce112358 saidClinton .. who the hell is that, and what does that have to do with the points I made? Get a grip and try to resist the temptation to tie back everything to Americans. Lol ... you people are pathetic.
Of course. Hillary Clinton addressed the importance of "the village" when it comes to raising children, but the same idea applies to marriages. π
Left to themselves, couples will not normally make it because half of individuals are going to be below-average at marriage. Religious groups and/or society can intervene and raise the success rate with advice and correction. π
God, @Rajk999, you are turning into such a liberal - on board with Clinton's ideas!?! π
@spruce112358 saidWIth Clinton ? You really need to do better.
I love broadening your mind, @Rajk999. Even if you hate it. π
@Rajk999 saidHow do you stand yourself? You are such a hater.
These days many women work, so they are all breadwinners. The problem is when the woman is significantly more qualified, and earns significantly more, then that marriage is on shaky ground. She is more likely to seek a divorce eventually. The hypergamy for women is upward, always. That never changes. Men are content with a cute uneducated homemaker type girl with which he c ...[text shortened]... husband regardless of who gets hurt. Smart men do not get married to women who can out-earn them.