Originally posted by joe beyserI am pretty sure Monsanto does some bad and some good. Usually things aren't black and white, but a matter of trade offs. A lot of good most of these "green" companies have done, burning through federal subsidies, wasting taxpayer money, and accomplishing zero or worse.
Yes Monsanto is bad enough to make that sacrifice. Look into it.
Originally posted by PhrannyThey are not banned in Europe. You need to educate yourself about GMO's a bit.
Genetically modified organisms, GMO's, have been outlawed throughout Europe for good reason. Monsanto has more money than God and has bought off Congress on both sides of the aisle. They insert pesticide, herbicide and antibiotic genetic material in the food you eat. This is totally different from old fashioned cross breeding. I would highly recommend no ...[text shortened]... bin. Avoiding GMO's is especially important for pregnant woment, lactating women and children.
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Originally posted by normbenignIn practise, GMO's are quite "green". GMO's allow a higher yield and a reduction of the amount of pesticides used, which is good for the environment (a higher yield means less land is required for farming). But like with nuclear power, hysterical ecoterrorists find themselves opposing solutions that are generally quite good for the environment. Now I'm sure that Monsanto is doing and has done some ethically questionable things (like most corporations), but in the end it's the responsibility of the legislature to ensure GMO's are used for the benefit of the consumer.
I am pretty sure Monsanto does some bad and some good. Usually things aren't black and white, but a matter of trade offs. A lot of good most of these "green" companies have done, burning through federal subsidies, wasting taxpayer money, and accomplishing zero or worse.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI would think that the ones actively destroying the planet, like Monsanto, would be the ones to be classified as "ecoterrorists."
In practise, GMO's are quite "green". GMO's allow a higher yield and a reduction of the amount of pesticides used, which is good for the environment (a higher yield means less land is required for farming). But like with nuclear power, hysterical ecoterrorists find themselves opposing solutions that are generally quite good for the environment. Now I'm ...[text shortened]... sponsibility of the legislature to ensure GMO's are used for the benefit of the consumer.
Or is it the case that as long as you operate within established power structures, then no matter how heinous your actions are, you, by definition, cannot be classified as a terrorist (eco or otherwise).
Originally posted by rwingettMonsanto is about as active in "destroying the planet" as I am active taking people who make such claims seriously.
I would think that the ones actively destroying the planet, like Monsanto, would be the ones to be classified as "ecoterrorists."
Or is it the case that as long as you operate within established power structures, then no matter how heinous your actions are, you, by definition, cannot be classified as a terrorist (eco or otherwise).
Originally posted by KazetNagorraWell, then I guess we have nothing more to say to one another on the topic. For my part, I remain incontrovertibly convinced that Monsanto is among the greatest threats to the continued ecological viability of the planet. Industrialized agriculture has been a disaster in the making, and Monsanto has played a leading role in that.
Monsanto is about as active in "destroying the planet" as I am active taking people who make such claims seriously.
Originally posted by rwingettIndustrialized agriculture has virtually ended hunger and starvation around the globe. It's decadent to the extreme to nostalgically reminisce about the days of small-scale farming when during those very days scores of people were dying of starvation and malnutrition.
Well, then I guess we have nothing more to say to one another on the topic. For my part, I remain incontrovertibly convinced that Monsanto is among the greatest threats to the continued ecological viability of the planet. Industrialized agriculture has been a disaster in the making, and Monsanto has played a leading role in that.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraHunger and starvation are virtually ended around the globe? I guess if you consider 925 million people hungry as "virtually ended" that is so. http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm
Industrialized agriculture has virtually ended hunger and starvation around the globe. It's decadent to the extreme to nostalgically reminisce about the days of small-scale farming when during those very days scores of people were dying of starvation and malnutrition.
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraWhile industrialized agriculture can produce more agricultural product than small farms, such large scale farms tend to grow cash crops instead of food and tend to distribute the product inefficiently (because starving people don't have money).
Industrialized agriculture has virtually ended hunger and starvation around the globe. It's decadent to the extreme to nostalgically reminisce about the days of small-scale farming when during those very days scores of people were dying of starvation and malnutrition.
Originally posted by no1marauderOne in seven getting poor nutrition is a vast improvement over the situation where the majority of the world population was "undernourished" and famine and starvation were common. Needless to say, there is still plenty of room for improvement, so better farming techniques and more efficient GMO's will surely help reduce that number of 925 million people, although better governance is also key.
Hunger and starvation are virtually ended around the globe? I guess if you consider 925 million people hungry as "virtually ended" that is so. http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/world%20hunger%20facts%202002.htm
Originally posted by rwingettI don't approve of politicising a Multi National in this way, if you want to boycott monsanto you might as well boycott food they make so much.
This Saturday, May 25th, Everywhere. There will be protest marches around the globe against Monsanto. As we all know that Monsanto is the very essence of evil in the world today, it behooves you to take a few hours out of your schedule to help check the spread of their villainy. Take a look at their website to find the closest protest to you.
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/
Monsanto is a series of chemical plants guarded by lawyers, like any agro/chemical companie, there are plenty of dubious ones, its reluctant to shut one down. Its neither good nor bad and you buy it. Currently i don't see anything terrible in what they make. To be honest it sounds like a march for idiots, thats just my view.
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One in seven getting poor nutrition is a vast improvement over the situation where the majority of the world population was "undernourished" and famine and starvation were common. Needless to say, there is still plenty of room for improvement, so better farming techniques and more efficient GMO's will surely help reduce that number of 925 million people, although better governance is also key.