Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat's the Occupy Monsanto page. I don't know the connection between them, but that's not the site I listed in the OP. If you look at the 'March Against Monsanto' website (below), Glasgow is correctly listed. I assume you'll be attending?
ah great Ming, if only it were so,
England Glasgow Glasgow http://on.fb.me/107mKuy
lifted directly from
http://occupy-monsanto.com/tag/protest/
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/p/blog-page.html
Originally posted by rwingettno i cannot i have other plans, sowwy!
That's the Occupy Monsanto page. I don't know the connection between them, but that's not the site I listed in the OP. If you look at the 'March Against Monsanto' website (below), Glasgow is correctly listed. I assume you'll be attending?
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/p/blog-page.html
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf Indian farmers feel they are better off not using Monsanto's seeds, they shouldn't use them.
This is motivated by greed, it does not necessitate that greater yields are better in quality and on the contrary, the Indian farmers found that while yields were greater the first year, the native seed was better suited to their environment than the genetically modified one. You only need to taste a supermarket tomato compared to a home grown one to realise the difference in quality.
As for people home-growing their crops, the best of luck to them.
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Originally posted by KazetNagorraclearly you are unaware of the implications for the Indian farmers, these Gm crops cost 100 times as much as traditional seed, required twice as much water, and did not produce any viable seeds of their own, which meant the farmers had to buy more and more seed every year, if a crop fails, as they have, then you are left with spiralling debts.
If Indian farmers feel they are better off not using Monsanto's seeds, they shouldn't use them.
As for people home-growing their crops, the best of luck to them.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf this stuff is so bad, how does it survive in the market?
clearly you are unaware of the implications for the Indian farmers, these Gm crops cost 100 times as much as traditional seed, required twice as much water, and did not produce any viable seeds of their own, which meant the farmers had to buy more and more seed every year, if a crop fails, as they have, then you are left with spiralling debts.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraI thought the same thing as I was writing last night. Our main difference seems to be that I trust markets to solve issues like this. I don't need to make a choice, except at the store or farmer's market about what I buy. That is my vote.
It's nice to see we can be in agreement about something.
Originally posted by rwingettI'd bet right now next week's grocery money that after all the Monsanto protests, it will make as much difference as the occupy Wall Street movement did.
With people like KazetNagorra in charge, I'm afraid you're right. They'll continue with business as usual until the whole rotting system collapses in ruins around them. But that doesn't excuse me from doing what little I can to help avert it.
Edit: A quick search of their website reveals that there will be a March Against Monsanto demonstration in San An ...[text shortened]... 6294128/
That's their facebook page. 796 people have indicated that they'll be attending.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI am aware of the Indian farmer/Monsanto story. It's possible the farmers made a poor decision by using the Monsanto seed. That's what entrepeneurs do sometimes, make mistakes.
clearly you are unaware of the implications for the Indian farmers, these Gm crops cost 100 times as much as traditional seed, required twice as much water, and did not produce any viable seeds of their own, which meant the farmers had to buy more and more seed every year, if a crop fails, as they have, then you are left with spiralling debts.
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Originally posted by rwingettFirst, I did not specify FREE market. There is a market, and people have choices, both at the market, and the seed store. All over the thumb there are organic farmers, and many of them sell at Eastern Market.
Because it's not a free market. There's no such thing.
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/05/us-state-department-global-marketing-arm-gmo-seed-industry
Those market opportunities can make changes that your sign carrying will not.
If you are protesting corporate welfare, I'm with you whether Monsanto is good or bad. That would include most of the annual farm bill, as well as the idiotic support of "green" initiatives.
Originally posted by normbenignDoesn't matter if Monsanto plays politics or seeks special consideration from FDA. Fact is they are poisoning people, and spreading the pollen to good crops spoiling the natural species in the process. Also trying to get a global monopoly on food in the process. Look it up.
Yes, with a Federal government as large as it is, and as intrusive, everyone seems to have to play politics.
The most effective vote anyone has is his spending decisions.