Originally posted by rwingettYou've been sold a load of manure, which if used properly can grow some nice veggies.
I would think that the ones actively destroying the planet, like Monsanto, would be the ones to be classified as "ecoterrorists."
Or is it the case that as long as you operate within established power structures, then no matter how heinous your actions are, you, by definition, cannot be classified as a terrorist (eco or otherwise).
If you think Monsanto is doing something wrong, identify it and fight the wrong, not the whole company, which on the whole does a lot of good things.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraIt is easy for people to make comparisons with nothing. Sure the world today isn't perfect, but it never has been. The population is larger than ever, primarily due to humans being better fed. The primary cause of hunger and malnutrition in today's world is malfunctioning human governments.
One in seven getting poor nutrition is a vast improvement over the situation where the majority of the world population was "undernourished" and famine and starvation were common. Needless to say, there is still plenty of room for improvement, so better farming techniques and more efficient GMO's will surely help reduce that number of 925 million people, although better governance is also key.
Originally posted by normbenignIt's nice to see we can be in agreement about something.
It is easy for people to make comparisons with nothing. Sure the world today isn't perfect, but it never has been. The population is larger than ever, primarily due to humans being better fed. The primary cause of hunger and malnutrition in today's world is malfunctioning human governments.
I once was naive enough to believe that our path of self-destruction could be stopped. But one only needs to look across the world to see what is coming. Tens of millions are going to perish regardless of the path we choose. We can only try to protect ourselves as best we can. Our house is made of straw and the wolf is already inside.
Any chance to alter the result has long past. :'(:'(:'(:'(
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Originally posted by caissad4With people like KazetNagorra in charge, I'm afraid you're right. They'll continue with business as usual until the whole rotting system collapses in ruins around them. But that doesn't excuse me from doing what little I can to help avert it.
I once was naive enough to believe that our path of self-destruction could be stopped. But one only needs to look across the world to see what is coming. Tens of millions are going to perish regardless of the path we choose. We can only try to protect ourselves as best we can. Our house is made of straw and the wolf is already inside.
Any chance to alter the result has long past. :'(:'(:'(:'(
Edit: A quick search of their website reveals that there will be a March Against Monsanto demonstration in San Antonio, Texas.
Edit2: https://www.facebook.com/events/437877836294128/
That's their facebook page. 796 people have indicated that they'll be attending.
Originally posted by caissad4no no no - look at things like nuclear power - we can keep the lights on at least for about 10,000 years - seriously and by then etc - don't be to cynical, even digital cameras small i know but if we can make them...
I once was naive enough to believe that our path of self-destruction could be stopped. But one only needs to look across the world to see what is coming. Tens of millions are going to perish regardless of the path we choose. We can only try to protect ourselves as best we can. Our house is made of straw and the wolf is already inside.
Any chance to alter the result has long past. :'(:'(:'(:'(
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Originally posted by rwingettare these the same skulduggers that are directly responsible for the deaths of countless Indian farmers? I pronounce a curse on them and their genetically modified seed!
This Saturday, May 25th, Everywhere. There will be protest marches around the globe against Monsanto. As we all know that Monsanto is the very essence of evil in the world today, it behooves you to take a few hours out of your schedule to help check the spread of their villainy. Take a look at their website to find the closest protest to you.
http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/
Although I would like to point out to the organisers that Glasgow is actually in Scotland, a different country from the advertised, Glasgow England.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm looking at their website and it says Scotland.
are these the same skulduggers that are directly responsible for the deaths of countless Indian farmers? I pronounce a curse on them and their genetically modified seed!
Although I would like to point out to the organisers that Glasgow is actually in Scotland, a different country from the advertised, Glasgow England.
Originally posted by rwingettIt is. Much improvements have been made since the main first drive of industrialization in farming after WW2, and much improvements still have to be made. Unfortunately, the solutions offered by environmentalists, while undoubtably with good intentions, tend to get us further away rather than towards this goal. "Organic" farming is less, not more sustainable than traditional farming, since yields are lower and fertile land is scarce. GMO's can help improve the sustainability of farming by increasing yields, reducing the need for pesticides or fertilizer and/or improving the nutritional value of foods. Unfortunately, irrational fear of technologies they do not understand is obstructing the spread of GMO's and preventing effective legislation for it.
Do you really believe that our industrial agricultural system is not responsible for enormous environmental damage?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraThis is motivated by greed, it does not necessitate that greater yields are better in quality and on the contrary, the Indian farmers found that while yields were greater the first year, the native seed was better suited to their environment than the genetically modified one. You only need to taste a supermarket tomato compared to a home grown one to realise the difference in quality.
It is. Much improvements have been made since the main first drive of industrialization in farming after WW2, and much improvements still have to be made. Unfortunately, the solutions offered by environmentalists, while undoubtably with good intentions, tend to get us further away rather than towards this goal. "Organic" farming is less, not more sustai ...[text shortened]... t understand is obstructing the spread of GMO's and preventing effective legislation for it.