@Earl-of-Trumps saidSo you admit Trump Lies. Thank you. The only thing Trump DIDN'T lie about was his statement 'I LOVE TARIFFS" THAT I believe.
And I know that you lie, too.
Throwing stones does not win the battle. Get a link.
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@wildgrass saidI disagree.
It's because the right no longer thinks that white collar crime should be illegal.
Fraud, corruption, insider trading, money laundering, bribery, embezzlement, the right thinks these things involve people who are just making rational choices about how best to protect their own money and property from other people. Anyone else caught up on the losing side of these shady t ...[text shortened]... They say they want to deregulate but what they really mean is that corruption should not be a crime.
When Trump said he paid no taxes, he also said it was because of the tax code that Hillary's herself and the other rich Dems take advantage of. Two wings, same bird. They pretend to be separate to divide us.
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@boonon saidOf course rich Dems take advantage of it.
I disagree.
When Trump said he paid no taxes, he also said it was because of the tax code that Hillary's herself and the other rich Dems take advantage of. Two wings, same bird. They pretend to be separate to divide us.
But the GOP wrote it. Not the same bird.
After trump said that, he fought for and passed a new law that further enriched the ultra wealthy. This put a larger fraction of the tax burden on the middle class who unfortunately don't benefit from the same loopholes. The same law added trillions to our nation's debt.
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@wildgrass saidWhen was it written?
Of course rich Dems take advantage of it.
But the GOP wrote it. Not the same bird.
After trump said that, he fought for and passed a new law that further enriched the ultra wealthy. This put a larger fraction of the tax burden on the middle class who unfortunately don't benefit from the same loopholes. The same law added trillions to our nation's debt.
If it is so bad why didn't the dems change it.
For reference I don't think anyone should have an unfair tax advantage.
I pay way too much in taxes every year for someone who would be considered middle class. I am waiting to see how Trumps no taxes on overtime affects me in 2026. Around 30,000 to 40,000 of my annual income comes from working overtime.
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When was it written?
If it is so bad why didn't the dems change it.
For reference I don't think anyone should have an unfair tax advantage.
I pay way too much in taxes every year for someone who would be considered middle class. I am waiting to see how Trumps no taxes on overtime affects me in 2026. Around 30,000 to 40,000 of my annual income comes from working overtime.
If it is so bad why didn't the dems change it.
I think you already mentioned it. The Dems benefit from it too.
The overtime tax deduction maxxes at $10,000 I think. Depending on your tax bracket for other income that'll save you ~$100-200. Almost enough to take a family of 5 to the movies these days.
But in the same bill, the millionaires and billionaires get way more in handouts.
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@wildgrass saidThe millionaires and the billionaires unfortunately will always make out better than the normal folks.If it is so bad why didn't the dems change it.
I think you already mentioned it. The Dems benefit from it too.
The overtime tax deduction maxxes at $10,000 I think. Depending on your tax bracket for other income that'll save you ~$100-200. Almost enough to take a family of 5 to the movies these days.
But in the same bill, the millionaires and billionaires get way more in handouts.
That is one reason I say our politicians are the same bird. All of them make around 170,000 or so a year but end up millionaires. The game is rigged in their favor. That is why they cry foul against one another on camera but pat each other's backs behind closed doors.
@boonon saidThe Republicans write the laws that give tax breaks to the wealthy. Not Democrats.
The millionaires and the billionaires unfortunately will always make out better than the normal folks.
That is one reason I say our politicians are the same bird. All of them make around 170,000 or so a year but end up millionaires. The game is rigged in their favor. That is why they cry foul against one another on camera but pat each other's backs behind closed doors.
I'm not talking about millionaires. The laws that give tax breaks to the extremely wealthy billionaires cause the government to take on more debt because they cannot pay their bills. Republicans write those laws. The billionaires buy the debt and rake 4.8% interest from it, "earning" the average billion dollars in the pocket of a billionaire about $50 million a year (this interest money comes from tax dollars you send to the government) for doing nothing.
The Big Beautiful Bill is the latest example of a system where poor and middle class people literally pay billionaires just because the government can't pay its bills.
Democrats reap the rewards, but Republicans create the problem.
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@wildgrass saidIf it were truly a problem, then the dems would fix it.
The Republicans write the laws that give tax breaks to the wealthy. Not Democrats.
I'm not talking about millionaires. The laws that give tax breaks to the extremely wealthy billionaires cause the government to take on more debt because they cannot pay their bills. Republicans write those laws. The billionaires buy the debt and rake 4.8% interest from it, "earning" the a ...[text shortened]... e government can't pay its bills.
Democrats reap the rewards, but Republicans create the problem.
I believe that dems also write laws.?
You are blaming one party, and saying the other benefits also.
ONE bird.
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@boonon saidDems do fix it (see bill Clinton) and then republicans come in and blow up the budget again.
If it were truly a problem, then the dems would fix it.
I believe that dems also write laws.?
You are blaming one party, and saying the other benefits also.
ONE bird.
There isn't much difference between the parties. Both parties love government spending. But the biggest difference between them is that Democrats attempt to pay for their spending and Republicans do not.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidThat's Trump's DNI Tulsi Gabbard, yeah?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/12/15/dni-bombshell-report-joe-biden-welcomed-18000-known-suspected-terrorists-us/
[b]"The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) has revealed that President Joe Biden’s mass migration agenda
at the U.S.-Mexico border welcomed about 18,000 “known or suspected terrorists” to the United States in just four year ...[text shortened]... p does not bring charges up against Biden and Mayorkas, as Biden's missteps will simply be repeated.
The Trump minion that has already lied countless times in news conferences this year?
That 18,000 number is a bald-faced lie to try to make Trump's recent lie of 25,000 seem more reasonable. Most real sources say the number is way closer to 11,000. Less than half Trump's number. And that number is just ordinary immigrants, NOT "terrorists". Not "murderers". Not coming from "insane asylums".
Have a clue: This administration is being run by Trumpers. They don't say "boo" to the press unless Trump tells them to. So guess what? His lies become their lies. His entire Cabinet should not ever be able to find jobs in Washington again after this administration, unless the next Trumpublican president wants to continue Trump's lies.
Quoting government sources doesn't work anymore. Simply because those sources work for Trump. The Grand Master Dragon of Lies.
Second (free) clue: Breitbart's usage of the word "revealed" proves their bias. Nothing was revealed. It was made up out of whole cloth.
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@boonon saidWill you finally admit that Trump's Administration is basically a big shell game of lies if you find your tax savings to be minimal?
When was it written?
If it is so bad why didn't the dems change it.
For reference I don't think anyone should have an unfair tax advantage.
I pay way too much in taxes every year for someone who would be considered middle class. I am waiting to see how Trumps no taxes on overtime affects me in 2026. Around 30,000 to 40,000 of my annual income comes from working overtime.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidLook anywhere, except your Trump-fed websites.
@Suzianne
" Most real sources say the number is way closer to 11,000. Less than half Trump's number."
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A link would work here much netter than your citation.