@Cliff-Mashburn saidActually, that's "libertarian limited government BS".
I never realized how far gone you were with the leftist BS.
What if you mom did this to you and nobody stopped it?
Bet you'd have had a great time going to school.
How would you feel then?
@Mott-The-Hoople saidSo you want judges deciding what constitutes "mental abuse" of a child and punishing parents if they don't avoid such a nebulous standard?
No parent has a right to mentally abuse their child.
You come out on the freak side of everything. There is a shortcoming in your life…why don’t you share it with us? It’s clear you lash out against “normal” behavior.
You people really are government control freaks.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidI don't GAF how Megan Fox raises her kids.
I never realized how far gone you were with the leftist BS.
What if you mom did this to you and nobody stopped it?
Bet you'd have had a great time going to school.
How would you feel then?
You shouldn't either.
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@no1marauder saidFor the sake of those three boys, you should.
I don't GAF how Megan Fox raises her kids.
You shouldn't either.
What she is doing is monstrous child abuse that will affect them for the rest of their lives.
Why can't you admit that?
@sh76 said“but it's within the scope of what a parent is allowed to do.”
Most parents pump their kids full of their own ideologies. I try to avoid forcing my politics on my kids, but it's hard to avoid. Children look to their parents for guidance, even if they chafe at rules and restrictions.
Personally, I consider it abysmally stupid to sanction and foment this king of gender confusion, but it's within the scope of what a parent is allowed to do. ...[text shortened]... hildren is normal.
I am very hesitant to dictate how parents can and cannot raise their children.
It shouldn’t be.
Where do you draw the line?
Raise as a furry? Is that ok?
@Cliff-Mashburn saidMaybe it will.
For the sake of those three boys, you should.
What she is doing is monstrous child abuse that will affect them for the rest of their lives.
Why can't you admit that?
It's none of mine, yours or the State's business.
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@no1marauder saidBut if she was beating them or starving them, that would be?
Maybe it will.
It's none of mine, yours or the State's business.
I fail to see the difference.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidApparently it's another example of Cliff being duped:https://www.today.com/parents/celebrity/megan-fox-hits-back-claim-girl-clothes-rcna88834
For the sake of those three boys, you should.
What she is doing is monstrous child abuse that will affect them for the rest of their lives.
Why can't you admit that?
@Cliff-Mashburn saidYou would.
But if she was beating them or starving them, that would be?
I fail to see the difference.
@Cliff-Mashburn saidSo you're OK with raising a boy as a girl from birth until he's in his late teens and keeping him gender confused?
So you're OK with raising a boy as a girl from birth until he's in his late teens and keeping him gender confused? You believe that's the right of a parent?
=== No
You believe that's the right of a parent?
=== Yes
I know many people are going to take one look at these two answers and say I'm being inherently inconsistent or even hypocritical. But they're wrong. Parents have a constitutional (and inherent) right to raise their children as they see fit. Of courses there have to be some limitations, but I'm very hesitant to impose them.
@sh76 saidFor real. And good parenting is not very common in the USA and other so-called modernised countries. Most of the time kids only see that they had good parents when they become parents themselves.
Having good parents is probably the single most important element of good luck any child can have.
But it's not something you can force by government fiat.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidI'd draw the line certainly at physical or sexual abuse.
“but it's within the scope of what a parent is allowed to do.”
It shouldn’t be.
Where do you draw the line?
Raise as a furry? Is that ok?
Real emotional abuse too. But that means a long consistent pattern of demeaning and bullying and gaslighting and the like.
Being weird doesn't qualify.
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@Rajk999 saidAnd that's why the whole conception that we have to use government fiat to level the playing field between all people is utterly impossible and unrealistic.
For real. And good parenting is not very common in the USA and other so-called modernised countries. Most of the time kids only see that they had good parents when they become parents themselves.
Those who had good parents are at an advantage, and nothing anyone can ever do (short of a Harrison Bergeron-style tyranny) can change that.
As the great Milton Friedman once said, we like to call ourselves an individual society. But really, we're a family society; and the benefit of their progeny's consumption is a key driver of individuals in our economy and society.
I feel like my main life's goal is to provide as good as possible a future for my children. Thankfully, my parents have always felt the same way.
As for the throngs of people who either refuse to have children or to provide for them because they don't want to give up any consumption... well, that's their choice, but I pity them.