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MIGA: the art of the deal

MIGA: the art of the deal

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@Soothfast said
I've already lost count of how many aircraft the US has lost in combat in this war being coordinated by a former Fox News talking head and a failed real estate mogul. Right now the list I have for just the past week is this:

1 F-15E Strike Eagle
1 A-10 Warthog
2 Lockheed MC-130 transport aircraft
E3 Sentry AWACS was hit while grounded, probably due to Russia targeting assistance and US sloppiness


@Soothfast said
Iran also has China and Russia on its side.

There's every reason to believe that Russia is supplying Iran with satellite, telemetry and radar data to help it target US and Gulf state assets. And yet Trump—ever still Putin's most useful idiot (and Netanyahu's also)—continues to throw Ukraine under the bus and cozy up with the Kremlin. Meanwhile Vance is in Hungary trying ...[text shortened]... y Putin's only friend in Europe. The Trump administration is a den of treason weasels and criminals.
I wouldn't say Trump is cozying up to the Kremlin. He had the USN capture several Russian shadow tankers. He's just avoiding Russia's backyard.


@no1marauder said
Getting hammered by the US military is really unpleasant. Sure, if there's no way but abject surrender a nation might be willing to endure it but that's not an optimal result.

If they were willing to accept JCPOA's terms in 2015, I'm not sure they wouldn't now.
What's the saying? We went into this mess with a parking ticket and left with a DUI.


@AThousandYoung said
I wouldn't say Trump is cozying up to the Kremlin. He had the USN capture several Russian shadow tankers. He's just avoiding Russia's backyard.
And yet he's also let at least one Russian tanker get to Cuba recently.


@AThousandYoung said
E3 Sentry AWACS was hit while grounded, probably due to Russia targeting assistance and US sloppiness
Yeah, I remember that. Another screw-up that military experts say never should have happened. But that event was a bit out of my time frame. Still worth mentioning, though. I can't think of any occasion when an AWACS was lost in wartime before now.


@moonbus said
Here's what Iran gets:

1. to assert military control over the Strait of Hormuz
2. to collect a 1-million-dollar toll for ships passing through the strait (passage was free before)
3. to rebuild its bridges and roads at the world's expense
4. to enrich uranium
5. install a regime which is even more domestically repressive than the previous one
6. a guarantee that neith ...[text shortened]... ades: he knocked the Epstein scandal right off the front page news and still not released the files.
Great post!


@no1marauder said
Getting hammered by the US military is really unpleasant. Sure, if there's no way but abject surrender a nation might be willing to endure it but that's not an optimal result.

If they were willing to accept JCPOA's terms in 2015, I'm not sure they wouldn't now.
Putin has failed to bend Ukraine to his will after more than four years of hammering, and Ukraine doesn’t have a convenient world trade choke point.


@moonbus said
Here's what Iran gets:

1. to assert military control over the Strait of Hormuz
2. to collect a 1-million-dollar toll for ships passing through the strait (passage was free before)
3. to rebuild its bridges and roads at the world's expense
4. to enrich uranium
5. install a regime which is even more domestically repressive than the previous one
6. a guarantee that neith ...[text shortened]... ades: he knocked the Epstein scandal right off the front page news and still not released the files.
It’s what you get when Netayahoo has his grubby little fascist fists stuck your arse, playing you like a fat orange muppet.


@shavixmir said
It’s what you get when Netayahoo has his grubby little fascist fists stuck your arse, playing you like a fat orange muppet.
It shouldn't be POSSIBLE that one man, a convicted sex offender & tax dodger, could plunge the entire world's alliances and economies into disarray with a few executive orders. America and the rest of world need to re-establish oversight and accountability soon, before he breaks anything else.


@moonbus said
It shouldn't be POSSIBLE that one man, a convicted sex offender & tax dodger, could plunge the entire world's alliances and economies into disarray with a few executive orders. America and the rest of world need to re-establish oversight and accountability soon, before he breaks anything else.
Him and Netenyahoo are the Hitlers, Mussolinis and Francos of our time.

And their followers are sheep who will end up digging the graves of those they’ve murdered as history scorns them as evil.
And their children will hide their identities in shame.

Disgusting, pathetic creatures, willing to blame everyone but themselves. Their behaviour is attrocious and they think they’re justified. It’s religious cultism gone haywire.

And the sad thing is, it will be too late for them to comprehend the errors of their ways. They will have children’s bloody oozing from their depraved little fingers.

I hope they all rot in hell.


@moonbus said
Putin has failed to bend Ukraine to his will after more than four years of hammering, and Ukraine doesn’t have a convenient world trade choke point.
Putin's terms include the seizure of significant chunks of Ukraine's territory something the latter have never been willing to accept.

By contrast, Iran has already shown a willingness to accept restraints on its nuclear program.


@Soothfast said
I've already lost count of how many aircraft the US has lost in combat in this war being coordinated by a former Fox News talking head and a failed real estate mogul. Right now the list I have for just the past week is this:

1 F-15E Strike Eagle
1 A-10 Warthog
2 Lockheed MC-130 transport aircraft
So NOW I get the mindset of you defeatist liberals, you negative downer liberals. This post is of the same ilk as when you say Trump, who owns 100 companies, lost a few casinos!!!!
We are in a major conflict, we have ALL KINDS of armaments, and lost a few in the skirmish. You will REALLY go crazy when troops might die. Like, it is a Trump mistake!!!!
When you do, I hope you will mention the innocent women who die at the hands of the illegals which you defend.
But you won't, as it didn't bother you then, why would it bother you now.

The current posts of you guys are truly pitiful. Iran no longer threatens us. They did a month ago. What changed? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggtt.


@no1marauder said
Putin's terms include the seizure of significant chunks of Ukraine's territory something the latter have never been willing to accept.

By contrast, Iran has already shown a willingness to accept restraints on its nuclear program.
"Iran shows a willingness'. My dog does not appear to be eyeing that basket of hamburger meat beside my grill. I trust him, I can go in the house.

So naive


@AverageJoe1 said
"Iran shows a willingness'. My dog does not appear to be eyeing that basket of hamburger meat beside my grill. I trust him, I can go in the house.

So naive
That's why there were international inspections mandated.

This war is totally unnecessary and would have been avoided if Trump hadn't torn up the agreement.


@no1marauder said
That's why there were international inspections mandated.

This war is totally unnecessary and would have been avoided if Trump hadn't torn up the agreement.
This one is actually saying that it was unnecessary to neuter or castrate or do whatever it takes to put down animals that would do us harm. Some of them have actually said that they have never been a threat. The Iranians are actually still chanting in the streets death to America and kill the infidels…. today today. .