My biz partner of years ago, good guy, changed into a woman ( whateve that means). I, as have all gentlemen, were taught to stand if a woman approaches our dinner table in a restaurant.
I’ve asked one of us but she(I’m not saying names) says I am so stupid, whatever that means, and wouldn’t answer.
Can anyone help me, I think he/she, wearing a tasteful evening outfit, will be dining at our local restaurant tonight.
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@AverageJoe1
I'm respectful to them in public and if I had a friend who transitioned, it would be impossible for me to go along with their new identity.
I wouldn't go out if my way to hurt them or make a scene or anything and I wouldn't push my views on them or our mutual friends either.
It would most likely be a fork in the road and we go our separate ways.
Keep in mind that I don't have any friends or family so your situation is not something that I would have to deal with. 🤷
What do your other friends think?
@PuzZuLz saidThey think as they always have……like, why do you have to ask.?,??!
@AverageJoe1
I'm respectful to them in public and if I had a friend who transitioned, it would be impossible for me to go along with their new identity.
I wouldn't go out if my way to hurt them or make a scene or anything and I wouldn't push my views on them or our mutual friends either.
It would most likely be a fork in the road and we go our separate ways.
Keep ...[text shortened]... ur situation is not something that I would have to deal with. 🤷
What do your other friends think?
Hey, man ,that’sJack!! See if he wants to take off downtown with us after dinner.
What else could they do?
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@AverageJoe1 saidOkay, understandable.
They think as they always have……like, why do you have to ask.?,??!
Hey, man ,that’sJack!! See if he wants to take off downtown with us after dinner.
What else could they do?
So what does Jack do when they address Jack...as Jack...while Jack....is dressed up as.. Jill?
I told you what I would do and I asked what your friends did.
I don't read minds and I'm starting to think you provided a hypothetical example/question.
Which you've done before.
You do not have a friend named Jack who transitioned, do you?
Joe, I smack these Libs on these forums with facts.
I don't got no time for hypotheticals.
That's what @sonhouse does 😐
@PuzZuLz saidYou’re missing the point,man. Whether I personally know a Jack who transitioned is completely irrelevant to the question.
Okay, understandable.
So what does Jack do when they address Jack...as Jack...while Jack....is dressed up as.. Jill?
I told you what I would do and I asked what your friends did.
I don't read minds and I'm starting to think you provided a hypothetical example/question.
Which you've done before.
You do not have a friend named Jack who transitioned, do you?
Jo ...[text shortened]... on these forums with facts.
I don't got no time for hypotheticals.
That's what @sonhouse does 😐
I posed a hypothetical about a situation that could involve any two people in a restaurant. The question is about a matter of social convention: if a person who was formerly known to me as Jack approaches my table dressed as Jill, do I stand as I ordinarily would fora woman approaching my table?
You don’t need to know whether Jack exists, whether I’ve ever met Jack, or whether Jack is actually named Jack. That information has absolutely no bearing on the premise.
If someone asks, “What would you do if X happened?” the normal response is to address what you would do if X happened, not demand proof that X has happened to me personallly
So no, I’m not asking you to read my mind. I’m asking you to engage with the hypothetical rather than cross-examine me about my social calendar.
Why do libs have to personalize everything? I could say’ “what would you do if if you see a waiter use a dirty plate at the next table?” Would you bring personal relationship into it? Relax, man,
It would be cool to see a straight answer on the forum, they are few and far between.
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@AverageJoe1
I told you what I would do in my first post.
I would be respectful in public but my prior relationship with "Jack" would be over and we go our separate ways.
Now, on to other things.
What did you order from the waiter? 🤔
@PuzZuLz saidI respect Jack,of course, we had successful biz together, kids in same college. We are cool with that.
@AverageJoe1
I told you what I would do in my first post.
I would be respectful in public but my prior relationship with "Jack" would be over and we go our separate ways.
Now, on to other things.
What did you order from the waiter? 🤔
Please then tell me, should I stand up for jack presenting himself as a woman.
(I looked up top to your first post, it doesn’t say if you would stand in respect to this woman or not, and that you may or may not have a relationship with him/her is not relevant here.
What say you?
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@AverageJoe1
I wouldn't have been at the hypothetical restaurant.
I'm not woke and I'm not going to play along with people's delusions regarding gender and I'm not interested in people's "new thing" or identity because of some fad that's going around.
Women today are not worthy of the "take off the hat or stand up at the table"
Most of the new social problems are because of those very women who are soft and go along with whatever new thing is going around.
#1 I wouldn't have been at the restaurant for the unveiling, pun intended.
#2 Even real women aren't worth standing up for.
#3 Que Suzianne to call me a misogynistic transphobe or something similar.
@PuzZuLz saidThankyou. A Quasi answer, at least. But, I am sad to say, you are in the mode of the pitiful libs, you
@AverageJoe1
I wouldn't have been at the hypothetical restaurant.
I'm not woke and I'm not going to play along with people's delusions regarding gender and I'm not interested in people's "new thing" or identity because of some fad that's going around.
Women today are not worthy of the "take off the hat or stand up at the table"
Most of the new social problems are ...[text shortened]... worth standing up for.
#3 Que Suzianne to call me a misogynistic transphobe or something similar.
, #1, are ranting.
#2 You go deep into your psyche for us, on a pace with Suzianne.
#3 You are silly…‘wouldn’t have been at restaurant ‘.
#4 You attempt to philosophize., about women in general, all irrelevant
Come to think of it, you do not answer the question.
#5. You prove the AvJoe adage: Libs (you, we find) do not answer questions.
#6. AvJoe scores another win
@PuzZuLz saidPitiful. So many of you here
@AverageJoe1
I'm starting to think you are attracted to "Jack"
It may be helpful to you to read what you posted.., you must see that you are really writing about yourself. A lot of you do that. Forum has no punch, no interest
@PuzZuLz saidThe man dressed as a woman approaching my table?!? Like if you, I assume you are a man, m… if YOU approach my table?!?!?
@AverageJoe1
Okay,
Tell us what you would do in the situation that you provided.
What would you do?
I would not stand up for a man, be it you or Jack, if you approached my table. I never have, and I never have seen a guy do it.
If I may elaborate, take marauder… He is all into the Tranee thing . So I assume that he would stand up for the man presenting himself as a woman. I had hoped he would respond to this, but I doubt we will hear from them..
@PuzZuLz saidNow we know why you only ever have first dates, no second.
@AverageJoe1
I wouldn't have been at the hypothetical restaurant.
I'm not woke and I'm not going to play along with people's delusions regarding gender and I'm not interested in people's "new thing" or identity because of some fad that's going around.
Women today are not worthy of the "take off the hat or stand up at the table"
Most of the new social problems are ...[text shortened]... worth standing up for.
#3 Que Suzianne to call me a misogynistic transphobe or something similar.
You people never learn.
@AverageJoe1 saidI love it when Republicans eat other Republicans.
Thankyou. A Quasi answer, at least. But, I am sad to say, you are in the mode of the pitiful libs, you
, #1, are ranting.
#2 You go deep into your psyche for us, on a pace with Suzianne.
#3 You are silly…‘wouldn’t have been at restaurant ‘.
#4 You attempt to philosophize., about women in general, all irrelevant
Come to think of it, you do not answer th ...[text shortened]... the AvJoe adage: Libs (you, we find) do not answer questions.
#6. AvJoe scores another win