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Muslims are not taking over Europe

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@Cliff-Mashburn said
These people refuse to check out videos of London/Paris/Oslo/etc where Muslims have taken over the capital cities.
Here's a nice no-go zone in Sweden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwbxAPY5Mo4
People know and are aware. They are either afraid or they are supporters of Islam.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
These people refuse to check out videos of London/Paris/Oslo/etc where Muslims have taken over the capital cities.
Here's a nice no-go zone in Sweden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwbxAPY5Mo4
Have you ever been to London/Paris/Oslo?

I live in London and what you're reporting is nonsense.


@Rajk999 said
People know and are aware. They are either afraid or they are supporters of Islam.
I'm neither sir.

London is not over run by Muslims or any other religious group.


@Ponderable said
Yes.

But not in Germany
Not in Germany, probably because Germans do not publish or make available the right statistics, which is crime committed by religious affiliation. The time is going to come when they will have to change that. Even to speak of Muslims committing crimes is discouraged. You cannot suppress the truth for very long.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
These people refuse to check out videos of London/Paris/Oslo/etc where Muslims have taken over the capital cities.
Here's a nice no-go zone in Sweden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwbxAPY5Mo4
...and it is just said "one hour from Stockholm" not which city, which would have been much more useful to check.

Us citizens who often have never left the USA tell me how things look like in my Country (Germany) and won't believe an eyewitness...


@Rajk999 said
Not in Germany, probably because Germans do not publish or make available the right statistics, which is crime committed by religious affiliation. The time is going to come when they will have to change that. Even to speak of Muslims committing crimes is discouraged. You cannot suppress the truth for very long.
In fact it is collected and reported, so this is an ouright lie (because you don't do errors do you?).

Did you hear about the guy who drove into the people in Mannheim?

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@Ponderable said
In fact it is collected and reported, so this is an ouright lie (because you don't do errors do you?).

Did you hear about the guy who drove into the people in Mannheim?
I said ...Germans do not publish or make available the right statistics, which is crime committed by religious affiliation. . When a crime is committed, is it public knowledge whether the person is a Muslim or otherwise? Maybe sometimes but certainly not always.

While German police collect data on politically motivated crimes, including hate crimes, the extent to which they report the religion of offenders is complex and controversial.

Key points to consider:

Data Collection: German police collect nationwide data on politically motivated crime, including hate crimes. This data collection is based on guidelines agreed upon by the German Federal Government and the governments of the German states3.

Hate Crime Definition: Hate crimes are defined as politically motivated crimes stemming from prejudice against nationality, ethnic origin, skin color, religion, worldview, social status, disability, gender/sexual identity, sexual orientation, or physical appearance3.

Data Points: When a hate crime is reported, police collect administrative data, a description of the facts, time and crime scene details, information on the suspect and victim (including characteristics), the infringed law, and the quality of the crime3. The act is assigned to one of 11 categories, including anti-Semitism, "antiziganism", disability, xenophobia, social status, racism, religion, sexual orientation, crime against women, gender identity, anti-Christian, and anti-Islamic3.

Controversy: Revealing a criminal's country of origin or ethnicity in the media is controversial in Germany7.

Shielding Offenders: There have been instances where police have been accused of shielding offenders with a migration background2.

Anti-Christian Offenses: In 2024, 228 anti-Christian offenses were registered in Germany1.

No Increased Threat?: Despite the increase in anti-Christian offenses, the German federal government stated that "there is no increased threat to Christians or Christian institutions in Germany"1.

Reporting a Crime: You can file a criminal complaint at a police station or report the crime online46.


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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
Have you ever been to London/Paris/Oslo?

I live in London and what you're reporting is nonsense.
Funny, it's being reported on your own news stations:


@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
I'm neither sir.

London is not over run by Muslims or any other religious group.
So this is all fake?

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke said
I'm neither sir.

London is not over run by Muslims or any other religious group.
Overrun is probably too strong a term. Here is a report almost 10 years old where about 35% of the British surveyed thought Islam was threatening their way of life. Now with London having over 12% Muslim population, the situation will be getting worse. Living there is not necessarily an advantage.

I live out here in the islands, and friends and relatives tell me they hear that there is lots of crime and murders. What murders ? I dont see any. I never saw crime. I go anywhere, day or night without fear. its a lie .. right ? Wrong. One man's opinion about the state of the country, regardless of where he lives can be biased and incorrect.

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Third of Britons believe Islam threatens British way of life

More than a third of people in the UK believe that Islam is a threat to the British way of life, according to a report by the anti-fascist group Hope not Hate. The organisation’s annual “State of Hate” report, which will be launched on Monday, argues that anti-Muslim prejudice has replaced immigration as the key driver of the growth of the far right. In polling conducted by the group in July last year, 35% of people thought Islam was generally a threat to the British way of life, compared with 30% who thought it was compatible. Forty-nine per cent of those who voted Conservative in the 2017 general election thought it was generally incompatible, and 22% of Labour voters agreed.

Nearly a third (32😵 said they thought there were “no-go areas” in Britain where sharia law dominated and non-Muslims could not enter. Almost half of Conservative voters (47😵 and those who voted to leave the EU (49😵 believed this was true. The report said that while polling showed that attitudes towards Muslims in Britain had improved between 2011 and 2016, the terror attacks in the UK in 2017 had had a negative impact on perceptions.

In a separate poll of more than 5,000 people in August 2018, 30% said they would support a campaign set up by local residents to stop proposals to build a mosque near where they live. Twenty-one per cent say they would still support the campaign if either side became violent, because the matter was so serious.

Among the issues in the report is that of leftwing antisemitism. Hope not Hate said that while extreme antisemitism and Holocaust denial were less common, there were many examples of “conspiratorial” antisemitism and the use of antisemitic tropes, “especially in relation to supposed Jewish power”. The report points to research that found an increase in antisemitic Google searches in the UK. It found that 5% of UK adults did not believe the Holocaust happened and 8% said the scale of the Holocaust had been exaggerated.

The report’s authors said a large group was involved in “denying a problem exists and dismissing the issue as a rightwing and Zionist smear”. It concluded that the Labour party was still not doing enough to tackle antisemitism. “The family history of so many members of the British Jewish community includes first-hand experience of persecution. Many people in the Jewish community therefore identify with a sense of the precariousness of their safety, where material security and educational attainment are not seen as guarantors of security and safety,” it said.

“The inability of the Labour party leadership to understand and acknowledge this experience is particularly chilling when the Labour party and the left in general hold values of equality and antiracism as core to their identity.” The report also found that while the numbers arrested for terror-related offences in 2018 was down on the previous year, there was a growing threat of far-right terrorism, which came both from organised groups such as National Action and from lone actors who are radicalised over the internet.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/17/third-of-britons-believe-islam-threatens-british-way-of-life-says-report


@Cliff-Mashburn said
Funny, it's being reported on your own news stations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTsP_r5EUNY
Again. I actually live in the country and what you are saying is nonsense.

There are pockets of particular nationalities/religions in all countries, including America. In the part of London I live in there is a small community of Hungarians. On a Saturday they tend to congregate in one particular coffee shop (the owner is Hungarian) and I could easily take a video and make out that London has been overrun by Hungarians. - As it is, they are a healthy part of our society.

You need to start being less susceptible to things you watch on Youtube. (Where context is often lacking).


@Ponderable said
...and it is just said "one hour from Stockholm" not which city, which would have been much more useful to check.

Us citizens who often have never left the USA tell me how things look like in my Country (Germany) and won't believe an eyewitness...
The eye witness has one pair of eyes. There are reports which is the accumulated data for thousands of eyes. I own a restaurant and bar down in these islands and I meet European tourists almost daily. Sometimes I hear of life in Germany, France, Italy, England, Sweden. Occasionally the issue of immigration comes up and when they speak freely, their opinion is the complete opposite of yours. You dont know everything about Germany because you are a German.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
So this is all fake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTIWvDy8H4I
You're fake sir. I don't click on your links. God knows where I'll end up.


@Cliff-Mashburn said
These people refuse to check out videos of London/Paris/Oslo/etc where Muslims have taken over the capital cities.
Here's a nice no-go zone in Sweden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwbxAPY5Mo4
Don't judge from one situation please. If you can't keep an open mind then you shouldn't post things like this.


@Rajk999 said

One man's opinion about the state of the country, regardless of where he lives can be biased and incorrect.
As can those deriving their opinions on a country they don't live in (and probably never visited) from the media (also prone to being biased and incorrect).

There is nowhere in London I consider a no go area, and certainly not because of sharia law. (And have never heard a fellow Londoner voice that concern).

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