@Metal-Brain
BULLSHYTE. You are not a socialist, you are a seeker of CHAOS pure and simple and WANT the USA to fail as a democracy.
That makes you a TRAITOR and you should be treated as such.
I bet you REALLY wish you had been with your white nationalist proud boy buddies attacking the capitol on Jan 6.
@wildgrass saidYes,, I acknowledge that there are pockets of socialism here and there in the USA.
I don't know about Venezuela. I do know that some of the statements you've made on these forums are socialist in effect.
But what does Bernie want? Can you fellers venture there, please?
@averagejoe1 saidI only quoted James Madison there because you wrote, incorrectly, that his views on government support for those who need it is socialist. It is not.
WOW. To start with, I am for socialism ONLY which benefits poor people, slanthead. I've often said, let us support the 40M poor. (it will be more of course with the open borders, they are all poor. Gotta support them too)
You think subsidies and grants are nonsense. You need to look up the impact of these programs. I had to myself, that is not my field. Made s ...[text shortened]... equired to pay it back. Me, I think that they should pay it back. So, I agree with you on that one.
You need to look up the impact of these programs.
Yes I understand they are beneficial. But public support for, and eventually government ownership of, private corporations is the transition state from capitalism to socialism. You are all in.
@averagejoe1 saidBernie wants people to think he is a socialist so people are fooled into thinking they had a choice during the primary election. He had no intention of winning. He was paid well to throw the election to Biden, his good friend.
Yes,, I acknowledge that there are pockets of socialism here and there in the USA.
But what does Bernie want? Can you fellers venture there, please?
Why would he do that? For the same reason a pro wrestler throws a match. It is all choreographed, even the trash talk. You didn't think Trump meant it when he said HRC would go to jail did you? It was all part of the act. They are probably on the phone laughing about it right now.
@wildgrass saidDid Karl Marx say it or not?
Dictionaries make that leap because the concept of "social control" varies depending on which flavor of economic or political theory you are dealing with. Its simpler and more inclusive of diverse schools of thought to equate "social control" with government ownership and administration.
If it ain't Marxism it ain't socialism.
@metal-brain saidUYOu are like that Sonhouse poster, who 'thinks' this and that. So you 'think', and posters like the House character think, that Bernie wanted us to think something . How do you know that.?
Bernie wants people to think he is a socialist so people are fooled into thinking they had a choice during the primary election. He had no intention of winning. He was paid well to throw the election to Biden, his good friend.
Why would he do that? For the same reason a pro wrestler throws a match. It is all choreographed, even the trash talk. You didn't think Trump m ...[text shortened]... ail did you? It was all part of the act. They are probably on the phone laughing about it right now.
Further, could you, for the Forum, state for us that Bernie is not a Socialist? Hurry, I want to share this with my coffee buddies in the morning.
Like everyone, I cannot comment on the Trump comment about HRC, as I know nothing about the truth of it , as do you and the Son person.
@AverageJoe1
You don't WANT to know the truth about your god king Trump.
You don't care half of his hand picked cabinet are under indictment AS WE SPEAK, which goes to show he does NOT pick the 'best' like he said.
He ONLY picks those folks who kiss the ring.
So prove me wrong on THAT issue.
@averagejoe1 saidSanders is not a socialist.
UYOu are like that Sonhouse poster, who 'thinks' this and that. So you 'think', and posters like the House character think, that Bernie wanted us to think something . How do you know that.?
Further, could you, for the Forum, state for us that Bernie is not a Socialist? Hurry, I want to share this with my coffee buddies in the morning.
Like everyone, I cannot c ...[text shortened]... the Trump comment about HRC, as I know nothing about the truth of it , as do you and the Son person.
He is just there to fool into thinking he is.
You don't have a choice.
@Metal-Brain
But all YOU want to do is overthrow the US government and install a dictator, like, oh, let's see, TRUMP?
@metal-brain saidMB says Sanders is not a Socialist. I have seen eleven definitions of Socialism on the Forum.
Sanders is not a socialist.
He is just there to fool into thinking he is.
You don't have a choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7U5JVk_y7U
So tell us, are his ideas socialist ideas ?
@averagejoe1 saidSupporting social programs does not make a person socialist. Democrats support social programs. Does that make them socialist?
MB says Sanders is not a Socialist. I have seen eleven definitions of Socialism on the Forum.
So tell us, are his ideas socialist ideas ?
@metal-brain saidWell , then i’ve been wrong all this time. I guess he ostensibly changed his mind, so it boils down now to what he wants, besides a total of $6.5 T.
Supporting social programs does not make a person socialist. Democrats support social programs. Does that make them socialist?
What, specifically, does Bernie want? So no concepts of socialism? Thankyou Jesus
@averagejoe1 saidBernie has never fought for socialism. He hasn't even fought for the social programs he claims to support.
Well , then i’ve been wrong all this time. I guess he ostensibly changed his mind, so it boils down now to what he wants, besides a total of $6.5 T.
What, specifically, does Bernie want? So no concepts of socialism? Thankyou Jesus
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@metal-brain saidMB, all due respects, I just can't watch these for long, but the first 2mins proves my point, when I say all the tine 'libs dont answer questions'. The interviewer asks Bernie, "Why can't you (do llke) Joe Manchin and get out there and do so-and-so, use your platforms, etc. ?"
Bernie has never fought for socialism. He hasn't even fought for the social programs he claims to support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HZZ-oRoWjQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHEQMxN9mYA
This qualifies as a question, a question to be answered by Bernie. He does not answer the question. So my takeaway from your post, this Youtube, is for me to get a cup of coffee and try to settle down and find a way to get people on this Forum to answer questions, before I accuse them of being like Bernie!!!!! Would any libs here want to be like Bernie? (And tell Suzianne that he is a millionaire) 😉
And, you simply cannot causally say Bernie has never fought for Socialism. True, if he went will nilly and vocalized abou Socialism, he would lose, it is too early for that, it would turn off many voters. SO, he keeps it between the lines. He is for all concepts of socialism, last time I looked.
@AverageJoe1
Do you feel like you answer questions? If a girl in town has more children than she can afford, of course I would help, and ask other people, to help her. How could one not. Voluntarily help her. Help her find her way, But if I ask that question of libs, they mention the government for some reason that I just do not understand. MB, what does the govt have to do with it.?