Only in America

Originally posted by KellyJay
Money flows where it can no different than water, you get a country that taxes everyone from
companies to people and one near by that does not, soon the one that allows everyone to
keep what they make will be getting all the growth. Personal income tax can be designed
several different ways, I don't mind it, don't like it, but understand it. What I don't ...[text shortened]... poor, if you don't do that than the tax code
will be carrot and a stick used by those in power.

You do realize that societies with progressive taxation systems tend to be wealthier, right?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
You do realize that societies with progressive taxation systems tend to be wealthier, right?

Societies that allow its people to keep what they earn are, those that strip all the wealth
away in favor of giving it to those that do not earn their own themselves, tend to be broke.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Societies that allow its people to keep what they earn are, those that strip all the wealth
away in favor of giving it to those that do not earn their own themselves, tend to be broke.

The empirical evidence suggests otherwise. Try to look up the data and see if you can find any correlation between, say, tax income as a percentage of GDP and GDP itself.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The empirical evidence suggests otherwise. Try to look up the data and see if you can find any correlation between, say, tax income as a percentage of GDP and GDP itself.

Find me a country where those on the dole out number those that are paying in, I'm willing
to bet that none like that will be solvent that isn't in debt and getting deeper in debt each
year?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
The empirical evidence suggests otherwise. Try to look up the data and see if you can find any correlation between, say, tax income as a percentage of GDP and GDP itself.

Name a couple of good examples in your point of view, I'll name a bad one America.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Name a couple of good examples in your point of view, I'll name a bad one America.

One does not establish a correlation though examples.

Find me a country where those on the dole out number those that are paying in, I'm willing
to bet that none like that will be solvent that isn't in debt and getting deeper in debt each
year?

That's an absurd shifting of the goal posts. In any case, I don't see why having more people "on the dole" than taxpayers would necessarily entail a government budget deficit.

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
One does not establish a correlation though examples.

Find me a country where those on the dole out number those that are paying in, I'm willing
to bet that none like that will be solvent that isn't in debt and getting deeper in debt each
year?

That's an absurd shifting of the goal posts. In any case, I don't see why having more people "on the dole" than taxpayers would necessarily entail a government budget deficit.

Give me examples, simply saying something is true doesn't mean I have to buy into it.
When the income doesn't match the outcome, debt occurs, it is quite simple.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Give me examples, simply saying something is true doesn't mean I have to buy into it.
When the income doesn't match the outcome, debt occurs, it is quite simple.

Examples of what precisely?

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Examples of what precisely?

Never mind I guess!

Originally posted by KazetNagorra
You do realize that societies with progressive taxation systems tend to be wealthier, right?

So then, the end justifies the means?