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I encourage as many people as possible to create AI from open source for maximum competitiveness in the AI race. I want as rapid development of AI as possible in the world. The only way to ban AI is to ban open source AI. Good luck with that. You cannot put the crap back in the cow.

Nobody will put a kill switch on my open source AI unless I am in control of the kill switch. Start thinking about who has the power of the kill switch. People are not asking enough questions before supporting crap. An AI kill switch is a horrible idea.

https://opensource.org/ai

The chances of AI destroying humanity is extremely small. You have a better chance of dying in an automobile accident. Do you all freak out before you drive?

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@Metal-Brain said
I encourage as many people as possible to create AI from open source for maximum competitiveness in the AI race. I want as rapid development of AI as possible in the world. The only way to ban AI is to ban open source AI. Good luck with that. You cannot put the crap back in the cow.

Nobody will put a kill switch on my open source AI unless I am in control of the kill ...[text shortened]... You have a better chance of dying in an automobile accident. Do you all freak out before you drive?
For some of us open source is the very best part of IT. People sharing code, improving each other’s work, and building together has driven enormous progress for decades. AI will surely benefit from that too.

Open-source AI also makes centralized control much harder, which is definitely worth thinking about and supporting. There is a lot here to like.

However nobody knows whether advanced AI will ever pose an existential threat, or what that probability would be. Comparing that unknown risk to the somewhat measurable risk of dying in a car accident is basically meaningless, and lessens the credibility of the rest of the post.

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@Metal-Brain said
I encourage as many people as possible to create AI from open source for maximum competitiveness in the AI race. I want as rapid development of AI as possible in the world. The only way to ban AI is to ban open source AI. Good luck with that. You cannot put the crap back in the cow.

Nobody will put a kill switch on my open source AI unless I am in control of the kill ...[text shortened]... You have a better chance of dying in an automobile accident. Do you all freak out before you drive?
How do you open source the hardware side of it? The only way the broligarchs seem able to improve AI is by making it bigger, building more data centers, using more power, needing more cooling, etc. We need it to shrink down so every IT guy can have it on his server rack.

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@Bish said
For some of us open source is the very best part of IT. People sharing code, improving each other’s work, and building together has driven enormous progress for decades. AI will surely benefit from that too.

Open-source AI also makes centralized control much harder, which is definitely worth thinking about and supporting. There is a lot here to like.

However nobody knows ...[text shortened]... ing in a car accident is basically meaningless, and lessens the credibility of the rest of the post.
Do you think 'improving work' by artificial means is a good thing? Surely it ceases to be the work of the person working, and becomes the work of a machine.

It's like using a chess engine to 'improve' ones' ability at playing chess.

These are new and deeply philosophical questions, for the first time we have created something more 'intelligent' than ourselves. I can see how using AI to obtain information is a positive, but to negate human creativity in favour of something with wires attached, I would say we're entering murky waters.

I write novels for fun. It would be possible now for me to instruct a machine to write a novel for me, and I have made myself obsolete. I won't, of course, I enjoy writing novels too much, but that in microcosm is what is now possible. All must come from us, that is how we improve and develop ourselves, and our species, else we lose the plot, and to lose the plot as a novel writer is not a good thing.

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@Sleepyguy said
How do you open source the hardware side of it? The only way the broligarchs seem able to improve AI is by making it bigger, building more data centers, using more power, needing more cooling, etc. We need it to shrink down so every IT guy can have it on his server rack.
We already have AI without the data centers that are being planned. How much hardware do you need for AI? Doesn't it depend on how many people are using your AI? What if you create an AI from source code and you are the only person using it? You would not need a big data center, right?

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@Indonesia-Phil said
Do you think 'improving work' by artificial means is a good thing? Surely it ceases to be the work of the person working, and becomes the work of a machine.

It's like using a chess engine to 'improve' ones' ability at playing chess.

These are new and deeply philosophical questions, for the first time we have created something more 'intelligent' than ourselves. ...[text shortened]... and our species, else we lose the plot, and to lose the plot as a novel writer is not a good thing.
Phil its a bit of a false equivalence. There is a big difference between using AI for work (which I do) and thinking it is ok for AI to replace human authors.

Spotify has been using AI for years to say, if you like these songs - you might like these other songs too. Technical Support Help Desks use AI support to prevent phishing attacks from tuning into ransomware attacks, which would cost companies million of dollars.

What is like using a chess engine to 'improve' ones' ability at playing chess? Every use of AI in the world?

My business uses AI along with human intelligence to create algorithms to predict system changes. The humans all have college degrees to allow them to understand what to ask the machine and how to ask it. Some people are better than others. Some have gotten better with experience. Just like every other tool we use to do our jobs. Its a tool.

Are spreadsheets cheating? Databases? What about using json or Python?

AI helps radiologists every day spotting subtle signs: algorithms catch tiny nodules, early microfractures, or faint tissue changes that the human eye might miss. I certainly want that for my family.

I write poetry, I would never use AI to help me with that - then it wouldn't be poetry by definition.

My wife and I also invest in the stock market and use AI very successfully to do that. Because we write the prompts. We ask the questions using the algorithms our company created late at night while drinking too much coffee and making lots of mistakes before we figured it out.

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@Bish said
Phil its a bit of a false equivalence. There is a big difference between using AI for work (which I do) and thinking it is ok for AI to replace human authors.

Spotify has been using AI for years to say, if you like these songs - you might like these other songs too. Technical Support Help Desks use AI support to prevent phishing attacks from tuning into ransomware attacks, ...[text shortened]... d late at night while drinking too much coffee and making lots of mistakes before we figured it out.
All I daresay positive uses of AI, so we have consensus. My concern is only that we don't try to replace AI with that which we have evolved between our ears.

As the old adage goes, technology is an excellent servant and a terrible master, something like that anyway.

And thanks for the measured, considered reply, something which we don't always encounter on these forums....

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@Indonesia-Phil said
All I daresay positive uses of AI, so we have consensus. My concern is only that we don't try to replace AI with that which we have evolved between our ears.

As the old adage goes, technology is an excellent servant and a terrible master, something like that anyway.

And thanks for the measured, considered reply, something which we don't always encounter on these forums....
Positive uses of AI or maybe just a good rationalization. My adult daughter has heard all this of course, and doesn't buy a word of it.

It is impossible to write history while we are in the middle of it. I may certainly be on the wrong side of this argument. I freely admit that.

Either way, it is complicated and there is probably more we don't know at this point than we know.