06 Feb 07
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with regard to the "special" relationship the us and the uk are said to have; do the americans and british feel a special bond does exist, if so, is it still as strong as it always has been? for the uk, has the lure of europe dimished this relationship?
considering the history between these countries and the fact we speak the same language, will there always be a certain amount of respect and fondness between the two nations, or is this merely wishful thinking by the media?
from a non us or british point of view, how do people of other nationalities feel when they hear of this relationship between the two nations; do they begrudge it, are they jealous or it etc...?
06 Feb 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopI think there will be a "special relationship" for the forseable future, mainly between the governments (with th US the dominant partner) as much of their policies are the same, especially military.
with regard to the "special" relationship the us and the uk are said to have; do the americans and british feel a special bond does exist, if so, is it still as strong as it always has been? for the uk, has the lure of europe dimished this relationship?
considering the history between these countries and the fact we speak the same language, will ther ...[text shortened]... this relationship between the two nations; do they begrudge it, are they jealous or it etc...?
As peoples, I think the shared language means that there is special relationship with all English speakers worldwide, not just US-UK.
Despite the anti-American banter I think most if not all Brits like Americans, although perhaps not their government. I don't think Europe has much effect on this, unless you are in business.
06 Feb 07
Edward Heath to Richard Nixon, 1970: "There is no special relationship."
Cf:
Tony Blair: "We are a bridge between America and Europe."
I think I'd sooner my country was a country rather than a platform for someone else to troop their muddy feet. Everyone here is waiting for a more determinedly critical Premier to take his place - I doubt we'll see any more poodles in Downing Street for quite some time, even if Gordon Brown is culturally pro-American.
08 Feb 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopits as special as the level of mutual self-interest allows
with regard to the "special" relationship the us and the uk are said to have; do the americans and british feel a special bond does exist, if so, is it still as strong as it always has been? for the uk, has the lure of europe dimished this relationship?
considering the history between these countries and the fact we speak the same language, will ther ...[text shortened]... this relationship between the two nations; do they begrudge it, are they jealous or it etc...?
09 Feb 07
Originally posted by AmauroteHuh? We don't need a bridge. We have aircraft carriers!!!!
Edward Heath to Richard Nixon, 1970: "There is no special relationship."
Cf:
Tony Blair: "We are a bridge between America and Europe."
I think I'd sooner my country was a country rather than a platform for someone else to troop their muddy feet. Everyone here is waiting for a more determinedly critical Premier to take his place - I doubt we'll see ...[text shortened]... es in Downing Street for quite some time, even if Gordon Brown is culturally pro-American.
09 Feb 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopmaybe in uk they think that. in u."s.", we think we're the best.
with regard to the "special" relationship the us and the uk are said to have; do the americans and british feel a special bond does exist, if so, is it still as strong as it always has been? for the uk, has the lure of europe dimished this relationship?
considering the history between these countries and the fact we speak the same language, will ther ...[text shortened]... this relationship between the two nations; do they begrudge it, are they jealous or it etc...?
10 Feb 07
Originally posted by Ubersuckyeah, but what does mexico offer what the uk cant... surely, in terms of wealth, power, and position the us is better off with the uk?
Those days are gone, my friend. The US now has a "special" relationship with Mexico. One third of all Americans now speak fluent Spanish.
10 Feb 07
Originally posted by eatmybishopIt was actually the French which coined the phrase: "The special relationship between the UK and the US."
with regard to the "special" relationship the us and the uk are said to have; do the americans and british feel a special bond does exist, if so, is it still as strong as it always has been? for the uk, has the lure of europe dimished this relationship?
considering the history between these countries and the fact we speak the same language, will ther ...[text shortened]... this relationship between the two nations; do they begrudge it, are they jealous or it etc...?
And typically French, it was lined with subtle sarcasm. It was made during the Suez crisis.
Now, that our American brothers and sisters didn't pick up on the sarcasm, has to be forgiven. But the Brits should have got it.
Should have. Didn't. But they should have.
The special relationship, the French were talking about, was the Brits having their tongues up the US's ass. By the way. In case you didn't understand what the French were on about.
But don't get this wrong! Don't think that the British government is in anyway sycophantic in nature. God no! Their tongues are where they are for specific purposes. Own gain, I believe it's called.
11 Feb 07
Originally posted by shavixmirThe French. How would they know. They fight with their feet and screw with their faces.
It was actually the French which coined the phrase: "The special relationship between the UK and the US."
And typically French, it was lined with subtle sarcasm. It was made during the Suez crisis.
Now, that our American brothers and sisters didn't pick up on the sarcasm, has to be forgiven. But the Brits should have got it.
Should have. Didn't. Bu ...[text shortened]... heir tongues are where they are for specific purposes. Own gain, I believe it's called.