@AverageJoe1 saidYou know the billionaires don’t just sit back and watch Money roll in.
I love the way you know what you’re talking about. You know the billionaires don’t just sit back and watch Money roll in. I wonder what the impetus of government would be?
And, neither did the working person that became disabled, fired, layed-off, etc.
Neither did the farmer or the Immigrant that worked the farmers fields... This list could go on and on. Sometimes things happen and people need help to get by until things get better; as with farmers losing their crops to floods and the such.
Billionaires do not need this help; EVER! Nor should they be receiving tax payer money every year to help run their billionaire business. Simple really.
@KingDavid403 saidDo you purport to know what billionaires need? If you had been around when Elon Musk was making his run, you would've cut him off at the knees. Silly goose, do I really get to kill you with common sense? How do you expect his having accomplished so much if you had controlled his wheeling and dealing.?
You know the billionaires don’t just sit back and watch Money roll in.
And, neither did the working person that became disabled, fired, layed-off, etc.
Neither did the farmer or the Immigrant that worked the farmers fields... This list could go on and on. Sometimes things happen and people need help to get by until things get better; as with farmers losing the ...[text shortened]... they be receiving tax payer money every year to help run their billionaire business. Simple really.
Pitiful short sighted airheads, all of you. BTW, as to farmers and immigrants.....they, like Musk, chose the lives they lead. Farming is hard. Breaking into a country or coming in legal to build a future, it can be hard, they are getting their start. Musk got his start, don't you know. One start led to more success than others.
I have an idea, Let us make Elon Musk distribute all of his wealth to people who made different choices that had different outcomes. Makes sense to me. 😆
Truly pitiful. Let's get his money, who needs to go to Mars.
@sh76 saidI don't think it's correct to equate family with society. Both are important but they are distinct layers.
I dunno. We live more in a family society than a collectivist society. The first people any child looks to is his/her parents and family.
I'm perfectly comfortable that my grandchildren will be satisfied that their family and communities have done their parts to foster the best possible environment under the circumstances.
If adjusted GDP per capita or purchasing power par ...[text shortened]... obsession to whine about.
My children are (hopefully) not planning to raise a new Greta Thunberg.
If your grandchild lived in a house in Yellowknife, is that what you're arguing? Because if not, that example doesn't make sense.
If your grandchild lived in a house in Yellowknife, and that house melted into what used to be permafrost, and that permafrost melted because our generation failed to take steps to mitigate the melting of the permafrost, why wouldn't they whine about that? Of course that grandchild would hate that. Maybe not you personally, but they might ask you why you didn't do more to prevent that from happening when we knew for decades it would happen and was preventable.
"under the circumstances" is a good way of phrasing it, almost like a stoic philosophical argument of why would we care about the things we cannot control. It is only a prediction, but I think the next generation will wonder why we, as a society not as a family, decided to saddle them with the $40 trillion+ debt and other problems that we deliberately ignored.
@AverageJoe1 saidWhat? You write about logic but this is nonsensical.
Hmmmmm so tell us, who will decide when something is an emergency or not? I say that because you liberals say that someone who runs out of money has an emergency. That emergency is only unto themselves. To you, we are all in the same family, we are brothers says Suzanne, so you think we should all shoulder this person‘s financial problem. The big picture is the same… T ...[text shortened]... ned logic and common sense so much. Tell me one liberal on this forum who has logic in common sense.
@AverageJoe1 saidNo, an investment in ourselves is an investment in ourselves. An investment in the future is an investment in the future.
? Is not investment in ourselves an investment in the future of this country? Do you want us to invest into something else? What would you suggest that we invest in rather than ourselves.?
You can imagine, I hope, ,how I would absolutely love a straight answer on this one. The answer would have to say you did not really mean that we should not invest in ourselves. ...[text shortened]... g tired raises all ships. Just what would be the tide.????
What would be the tide, Wildgrass?
We've saddled future Americans with $40+ trillion in debt and a growing climate problem that we've known about for decades and amorphous AI data centers that have taken over every sector of society without regulation or control.
You're welcome and good luck little ones. Hope you don't hate us too much.
@wildgrass saidYou lost readers on your ‘Yellowknife whatever’ I had no idea what you were talking about and bailed. So as far as nonsense goes, you pontificate it.
What? You write about logic but this is nonsensical.
@AverageJoe1 saidSh76 brought up Yellowknife, I assume his kids live there. The houses there are being destroyed by climate change, but apparently the solution is to grin and bear it.
You lost readers on your ‘Yellowknife whatever’ I had no idea what you were talking about and bailed. So as far as nonsense goes, you pontificate it.
@wildgrass saidProven? How can that be when many leading scientist think that climate change is a myth. This would mean that it is not proven.
Sh76 brought up Yellowknife, I assume his kids live there. The houses there are being destroyed by climate change, but apparently the solution is to grin and bear it.
@wildgrass saidBut I am not saddling my children with debt. Actually, I am feathering their nests for them with an inheritance. If anyone did did that in a thoughtful, logical way everyone’s children would be fine..
No, an investment in ourselves is an investment in ourselves. An investment in the future is an investment in the future.
We've saddled future Americans with $40+ trillion in debt and a growing climate problem that we've known about for decades and amorphous AI data centers that have taken over every sector of society without regulation or control.
You're welcome and good luck little ones. Hope you don't hate us too much.
The government could take care of National debt under normal daily deliberations. Since the economy is going great guns, having increased 15% in the second quarter, does this not mean that we could leave the debt at 40 trillion and continue on with a growing economy??
And our children well fixed with inheritance? Who in the hell would leave their children assuming their debts?? Do you have debt that you are gonna leave your children to have to pay off.?
@AverageJoe1 saidAren't you the dude on here that's always saying something about how giving someone large, unearned amounts of money makes them lazy, bored and unmotivated?
But I am not saddling my children with debt. Actually, I am feathering their nests for them with an inheritance. If anyone did did that in a thoughtful, logical way everyone’s children would be fine..
The government could take care of National debt under normal daily deliberations. Since the economy is going great guns, having increased 15% in the second quarter, do ...[text shortened]... assuming their debts?? Do you have debt that you are gonna leave your children to have to pay off.?
Now you want to give your own kids an inheritance?
Also, I was talking about public debt, not personal debt. This debt is financed through your tax bill every year. The government at some point will have to either raise taxes to cover the debt, or severely cut services below what you currently enjoy in order to make up the difference. We enjoy the benefits but are not paying that bill.
@wildgrass saidThoughtful patriarchs such as myself do not give wads of cash, but you libs could not fathom trusts. etc. You are correct, make your kids work for everything. You figure out how to leave your estate. I have a feeling it will not work out so well!!!
Aren't you the dude on here that's always saying something about how giving someone large, unearned amounts of money makes them lazy, bored and unmotivated?
Now you want to give your own kids an inheritance?
Also, I was talking about public debt, not personal debt. This debt is financed through your tax bill every year. The government at some point will have to either ...[text shortened]... rently enjoy in order to make up the difference. We enjoy the benefits but are not paying that bill.
And yes, I want to vest my kids in the proper way before you people get my money to pay for you daughters' abortions and to medicate people illegally in this country. Yeah, that don't set well with me. Worked real hard./ Some people did not work hard. Please tell me that THOSE people will not get my money! Please tell me Mirat Rikor will not get my money. Are you OK if she gets yours? Do you think you worked harder than me, got something to show for it?
Would you punish a successful person? Why? What would that person have to do with you? You all never answer that question.
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It is the National Debt that will be the insurmountable problem as we move forward.
The first trillion dollars of US debt took over 200 years to generate (this included WWI, WWII and the New Deal etc.) Reagan the 'fiscal hawk' trebled the debt to almost 3 trillion in only 8 years! Now a trillion is added every couple of months. We're trapped in an inflationary cycle after way too much money was 'created' in 2008 to bail out banks, followed by the insane decision to keep interest rates at 0% for over a decade. This is economic suicide, as we will find out in due course...