@no1marauder saidWell, then you prompt me to ask…..
It's comical that you honestly believe that what determines the amount of wealth you have in capitalism is how hard you work.
In your Hunter gatherer world , peaceful coexistence… Some gardening, some are harvesting deer…., but then there is Vincent van Gogh, who walks into the scene, set sets up an easel, and paints day in and day out for a long time. You get me, no production. No contribution.
What would be his category, like, how would he be treated in your world of hunters and gatherers of which she is neither?? just having fun here.
@AverageJoe1 saidBe up to the other hunter gatherers. Maybe they'd appreciate the art.
Well, then you prompt me to ask…..
In your Hunter gatherer world , peaceful coexistence… Some gardening, some are harvesting deer…., but then there is Vincent van Gogh, who walks into the scene, set sets up an easel, and paints day in and day out for a long time. You get me, no production. No contribution.
What would be his category, like, how would he be treated in your world of hunters and gatherers of which she is neither?? just having fun here.
@no1marauder saidNon -answer, most unimpressive. Curious, tho. Doesn’t hunt nor gather?. I know!! He does it all!! A perfect society. But what if…..oh, never mind.. you won’t respond to any inconvenient unanswerable question.
Be up to the other hunter gatherers. Maybe they'd appreciate the art.
Ask me a question.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou might wanna reduce your T-dose.
But I am talking with you. Trying to learn from you. You suggest Forum close down and we all go to library. No fun. I’m sure there are books written about what you call natural law. We all want to hear a layman’s definition , and you just cannot give it to us in readable practical terms…. you know, with a beginning of middle and an end. The word practical keeps ...[text shortened]... standing out.! So does the drive to library. And, They don’t allow coffee.
(Anthro-what?.?))
Neanderthals died out for a reason.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou consistently overestimate and overstate your abilities.
Non -answer, most unimpressive. Curious, tho. Doesn’t hunt nor gather?. I know!! He does it all!! A perfect society. But what if…..oh, never mind.. you won’t respond to any inconvenient unanswerable question.
Ask me a question.
Ultimately, you're just boring. And predictable. Even more boring.
@AverageJoe1 saidActually it was an answer just one you don't like. But I'll ask you a question after a little background:
Non -answer, most unimpressive. Curious, tho. Doesn’t hunt nor gather?. I know!! He does it all!! A perfect society. But what if…..oh, never mind.. you won’t respond to any inconvenient unanswerable question.
Ask me a question.
"Lascaux Cave
Lascaux Cave is a Palaeolithic cave situated in southwestern France, near the village of Montignac in the Dordogne region, which houses some of the most famous examples of prehistoric cave paintings. Close to 600 paintings – mostly of animals – dot the interior walls of the cave in impressive compositions. Horses are the most numerous, but deer, aurochs, ibex, bison, and even some felines can also be found. Besides these paintings, which represent most of the major images, there are also around 1,400 engravings of a similar order. The art, dated to c. 17,000 to c. 15,000 BCE, falls within the Upper Palaeolithic period and was created by the clearly skilled hands of humans living in the area at that time. "
"From the finds originating from the cave, we know that the deeper parts of the cave were lit by sandstone lamps that used animal fat as fuel, as well as by fireplaces. Here, the artists worked in what must have been smoky conditions, using minerals as pigments for their images. Reds, yellows, and blacks are the predominant colours. Red was provided by hematite, either raw or as found within red clay and ochre; yellow by iron oxyhydroxides; and black either by charcoal or manganese oxides. The pigments could be prepared by grinding, mixing, or heating, after which they were transferred onto the cave walls. Painting techniques include drawing with fingers or charcoal, applying pigment with 'brushes' made of hair or moss, and blowing the pigment on a stencil or directly onto the wall with, for instance, a hollow bone.
The catch is that there are no known deposits of the specific manganese oxides found at Lascaux anywhere in the area surrounding the cave. The closest known source is some 250 kilometres (155 miles) away, in the central Pyrenees, which might point to a trade or supply route. It was not uncommon for humans living around that time to source their materials a bit further afield, tens of kilometres away, but the distance in question here may indicate that the Lascaux artists put in a superb amount of effort."
https://www.worldhistory.org/Lascaux_Cave/
While we'll never know for sure, it's quite possible the artists at Lascaux toiled there while other members of their group hunted and gathered and the painters work was highly valued by the others.
So the question: who worked harder?
@no1marauder saidI've been there, and art is one of my retirement vocations, I sell my paintings and gift money to grandkids.
Actually it was an answer just one you don't like. But I'll ask you a question after a little background:
"Lascaux Cave
Lascaux Cave is a Palaeolithic cave situated in southwestern France, near the village of Montignac in the Dordogne region, which houses some of the most famous examples of prehistoric cave paintings. Close to 600 paintings – mostly of animals – dot ...[text shortened]... thered and the painters work was highly valued by the others.
So the question: who worked harder?
So I get art. And you can prevaricate all you want, we are talking about people living in harmony, sharing goods and services. Been going on for 10,000 years. Maybe Van Gogh would exchange his art for food, well and good, I will give you that. So, we will call him a gathererer, getting pigment out of the ground to mix with egg-white to make paint.
Yeah you are right. All can be 'to each his own' and live the flower life in good will. I will try to envision that as some toil in the ddirt for potatoes that he swaps his potatoes for art word in the cave (?). I guess that does it.
But, tell us, would that still be going on, that no big guy would show up on yon hill and decide to ravage the potato grower and take over his community.
The FITTEST will have never arrived???? would have Left them alone? You are worse that a dreamer.
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou're too simple minded to understand that "survival of the fittest" in evolutionary terms means "best adapted to their environment" not the biggest or strongest. https://www.britannica.com/science/survival-of-the-fittest
I've been there, and art is one of my retirement vocations, I sell my paintings and gift money to grandkids.
So I get art. And you can prevaricate all you want, we are talking about people living in harmony, sharing goods and services. Been going on for 10,000 years. Maybe Van Gogh would exchange his art for food, well and good, I will give you that. So, we will ...[text shortened]... The FITTEST will have never arrived???? would have Left them alone? You are worse that a dreamer.
No, just being a "big guy" means very little in human evolution.
@AverageJoe1 saidI'm trying to teach an extremely stupid person some basic insights into human behavior but you're too much of a swine to grasp these pearls.
Seriously… Why would you waste time writing paragraph after paragraph regarding something that will never be, and something that has never been
@no1marauder saidBig guy not meant literally, but metaphorically, but you knew that, so be silly. I have to go to dinner. Jesus.
You're too simple minded to understand that "survival of the fittest" in evolutionary terms means "best adapted to their environment" not the biggest or strongest. https://www.britannica.com/science/survival-of-the-fittest
No, just being a "big guy" means very little in human evolution.
@no1marauder saidAn expert on human behavior now, professor???
I'm trying to teach an extremely stupid person some basic insights into human behavior but you're too much of a swine to grasp these pearls.
Then please expound on behavior of those who would call for death to a country on the planet earth.
DEATH TO ...america..........
You simply must answer like an adult to this query? Of course you do. Martin (🤔...martin..??) says to be serious now.....
@no1marauder saidI'm back....Napoleon was not a 'Big Guy'. Get with it Sonhouse. He kicked ass, took over.
I'm trying to teach an extremely stupid person some basic insights into human behavior but you're too much of a swine to grasp these pearls.
OMG, what have I done. Now Marauder will tell us to read up on Napoleon.
.....while I try to do my own teaching!!! ( sorry to sound condescending....)
@AverageJoe1 saidGive t up you redundant fool.
An expert on human behavior now, professor???
Then please expound on behavior of those who would call for death to a country on the planet earth.
DEATH TO ...america..........
You simply must answer like an adult to this query? Of course you do. Martin (🤔...martin..??) says to be serious now.....
@AverageJoe1 saidYour savage remark is all I had to read. You are a sick person. A racist.
He is hardly attempting to affect OUR minds, his eye is only on negotiatingwith savages. That is enough balls in the air. He wants to win big in the end, not placate us along the way as he does what we asked him to do.....in short, protect our country.
For example, he, like you, knows that Iran knows that he is telling a lie. I think he told a few llike that when h ...[text shortened]... s like a fox negotiating with a chicken.
Let me get this sraight? a good deal will never happen?
Crawl back into your hole.