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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Who are "we"?
The royal we, as in everyone on the planet.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Exactly. Use the solar to desalinate and transport water, for one thing.
yup, that is what I'm thinking, and why not get that started asap? why wait until we have to?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Who are "we"?
The entire world...... except maybe the pacific Northwest...

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Originally posted by Hugh Glass
The entire world...... except maybe the pacific Northwest...
If things are good ideas, why is it ever necessay to apply government force to get them done?

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Originally posted by Hugh Glass
yup, that is what I'm thinking, and why not get that started asap? why wait until we have to?
Well, in California we are.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Solar energy is difficult to transport and Africa needs developing.
It can be developed with the money obtained by selling solar power.
I don't think it is logical to suggest that power should not be exported in an attempt at development - unless there is massive corruption. But that applies much more to oil.

If anything, the export of power would help pay for construction of solar power plants thus making the possibility for cheaper local power.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
Isn't it funny that if it doesn't concern the US or Israel, nobody seems interested in talking about it?

As far as I've been able to tell, if this plan goes ahead it will be the next step in energy evolution.

Not interesting?
In terms of realism, to what extent do vast amounts Russian Oil and natural gas make an integrated European green energy grid a non starter?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Well, in California we are.
great I didn't know that where are the facilities located?

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Originally posted by Hugh Glass
The entire world...... except maybe the pacific Northwest...
I don't see a water shortage happening in Holland any time soon.

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Originally posted by Hugh Glass
great I didn't know that where are the facilities located?
Wherever we want them. They're mobile.

http://www.water.ca.gov/desalination/pud_pdf/Mobile_Desalination.pdf

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Solar energy is difficult to transport and Africa needs developing.
But once it's in place, there's no need to transport anything. The problem is that it's a one-sale deal and therefor not as profitable as other forms of energy. Helen Caldicot has argued that if the power companies could wrap a blanket around the stratosphere and sell holes, the technology would be decades ahead of where it is now.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
But once it's in place, there's no need to transport anything. The problem is that it's a one-sale deal and therefor not as profitable as other forms of energy. Helen Caldicot has argued that if the power companies could wrap a blanket around the stratosphere and sell holes, the technology would be decades ahead of where it is now.
There's a loss of energy as it goes through the wires. A side effect of widespread solar panelling is that the land underneath will be shaded and enclosed, which means it could be possibly made into habitable land again over time - and the solar energy could do it.

If Africa sells this energy, they surrender some of their wealth to Europe and get paper in return. Right? What would they sell it for except money?

The net transfer of wealth will be out of Africa.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
There's a loss of energy as it goes through the wires. A side effect of widespread solar panelling is that the land underneath will be shaded and enclosed, which means it could be possibly made into habitable land again over time - and the solar energy could do it.

If Africa sells this energy, they surrender some of their wealth to Europe and get ...[text shortened]... What would they sell it for except money?

The net transfer of wealth will be out of Africa.
The point of solar is that it can be very decentralized. Each village can have its own sources. Potentially, each home.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
The point of solar is that it can be very decentralized. Each village can have its own sources. Potentially, each home.
That is not consistent with the plan of selling the energy to Europe.