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11 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterOh please!
Has Texas had more patriots than any other state in the union? Here's the short list:
Stephen F. Austin
Jom Bowie
Davy Crokett
James Fannin
Sam Houston
William B. Travis
Audie Murphy
Chester Nimitz
Dwight Eisenhower
Howard Hughes
George Bush
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Rick Perry
George W. Bush
Massachusetts has got you beat just by looking at one time period and without including lame modern day politicians like GWB and Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I mean really does Kay Bailey belong on a list like this?
Sam Adams
John Adams
Paul Revere
William Dawes
John Hancock
James Otis
Thomas Young
Joseph Warren
Isaac Sears
Samuel Prescott
John Parker
Isaac Davis
William Heath
Samuel Whittemore
Benjamin Franklin
11 Jul 08
Originally posted by Ullrwoo Hooo!! go mass!!!!
Oh please!
Massachusetts has got you beat just by looking at one time period and without including lame modern day politicians like GWB and Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I mean really does Kay Bailey belong on a list like this?
Sam Adams
John Adams
Paul Revere
William Dawes
John Hancock
James Otis
Thomas Young
Joseph Warren
Isaac Sears
Samuel Prescott
John Parker
Isaac Davis
William Heath
Samuel Whittemore
Benjamin Franklin
11 Jul 08
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Originally posted by SeitseI've long been wary of treating Chavez like a hero. It's my understanding his organization, run by his own family, is highly corrupt, and that when he was doing his thing he actively suppressed competition from Mexico in order to make his bargaining position stronger. I'm open to being educated though. I'm not convinced that he's not a hero...just uncertain.
Both are wrong. It is California:
[b]César Chávez
( and he is worth 10 times all the ones you've mentioned altogether )[/b]
Here...Wiki says The UFW during Chávez's tenure was committed to restricting immigration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_Chavez.
That's not the first place I heard it.
Here's an article about the corruption:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-nonprofits9jan09,1,3397888,full.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines
11 Jul 08
Originally posted by UllrYour list is quite good and would do any state proud, but as you know, everything is bigger in Texas and that's why I only quoted the short list.
Oh please!
Massachusetts has got you beat just by looking at one time period and without including lame modern day politicians like GWB and Kay Bailey Hutchinson. I mean really does Kay Bailey belong on a list like this?
Sam Adams
John Adams
Paul Revere
William Dawes
John Hancock
James Otis
Thomas Young
Joseph Warren
Isaac Sears
Samuel Prescott
John Parker
Isaac Davis
William Heath
Samuel Whittemore
Benjamin Franklin
11 Jul 08
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAlso, he was no friend of the illegal alien.
I've long been wary of treating Chavez like a hero. It's my understanding his organization, run by his own family, is highly corrupt, and that when he was doing his thing he actively suppressed competition from Mexico in order to make his bargaining position stronger. I'm open to being educated though. I'm not convinced that he's not a hero...just ...[text shortened]... s.com/news/local/la-me-nonprofits9jan09,1,3397888,full.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines
11 Jul 08
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWell, isn't that what is called loving America nowadays?
I've long been wary of treating Chavez like a hero. It's my understanding his organization, run by his own family, is highly corrupt, and that when he was doing his thing he actively suppressed competition from Mexico in order to make his bargaining position stronger. I'm open to being educated though. I'm not convinced that he's not a hero...just ...[text shortened]... s.com/news/local/la-me-nonprofits9jan09,1,3397888,full.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines
WHen calling César Chavez a U.S. hero, I didn't mean it in a good way or anything like that, nor I love the guy.
😉
11 Jul 08
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Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou forgot to mention Dr. Ron Paul, though he is origionally from Pennsylvania, he lives in Texas and have lived there for some time now.😉
Has Texas had more patriots than any other state in the union? Here's the short list:
Stephen F. Austin
Jom Bowie
Davy Crokett
James Fannin
Sam Houston
William B. Travis
Audie Murphy
Chester Nimitz
Dwight Eisenhower
Howard Hughes
George Bush
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Rick Perry
George W. Bush
11 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterDwight D. Eisenhower was indeed a great American. I wouldn't particularly say that George W. Bush or his father are patriots, though -- they're selfish oil businessmen out for their own interests. What's more, Prescott Bush (GHWB's father) was a Nazi collaborator and was instrumental in the Eugenics movement.
Has Texas had more patriots than any other state in the union? Here's the short list:
Stephen F. Austin
Jom Bowie
Davy Crokett
James Fannin
Sam Houston
William B. Travis
Audie Murphy
Chester Nimitz
Dwight Eisenhower
Howard Hughes
George Bush
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Rick Perry
George W. Bush
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12 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterI haven't even started listing the Kennedy's, which if you count all their illegitimate children and the ones in rehab will far surpass any numbers you can throw at me from Texas.
Your list is quite good and would do any state proud, but as you know, everything is bigger in Texas and that's why I only quoted the short list.
12 Jul 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterWhy did you leave off LBJ?
Has Texas had more patriots than any other state in the union? Here's the short list:
Stephen F. Austin
Jom Bowie
Davy Crokett
James Fannin
Sam Houston
William B. Travis
Audie Murphy
Chester Nimitz
Dwight Eisenhower
Howard Hughes
George Bush
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Rick Perry
George W. Bush
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12 Jul 08
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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter[WORD TOO LONG]
Has Texas had more patriots than any other state in the union? Here's the short list:
Stephen F. Austin
Jom Bowie
Davy Crokett
James Fannin
Sam Houston
William B. Travis
Audie Murphy
Chester Nimitz
Dwight Eisenhower
Howard Hughes
George Bush
Kay Bailey Hutchison
Rick Perry
George W. Bush
Sorry, I was just laughing at the 'patriots' on your list.
Howard Hughes?
Davy Crockett wasn't Texan, he just moved there for a while.
The Bushes? LOL!