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Patton versus Rommel

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
"The free online resource Wikipedia is about as accurate on science as the Encyclopedia Britannica, a study shows."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4530930.stm
Helps to make my point that one should look to other sources.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
I'm a cosmopolitan "hard-core" American, not to mention being in the medical field where one must become adept at utilizing the metric system. The spelling is out of respect to my European "allies", although I don't use their spelling method exclusively...just when I feel like being nice... 😉
metric is very useful and easy when doing science, Imperial is very good at everything else.
oh and duels should always be conducted in yards or paces.

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When you talk about the greatest generals of all time, not just US; you usually come up with the following list:

Ghenghis Khan
Hannibal
Alexander
Napoleon
Rommel
Lee
Julius Caesar


I'm not sure that the last three belong on the list, but you almost never see Patton. Why? Because he doesn't belong.

When I think about the 5 greatest battles of all-time, I usually rank them this way.

Tobruk
Cannae
Austerlitz
Chancellorsville
Crecy

Every other battle that you care to mention is like one on the list above!

The exception is Tobruk which contains elements of each of the other 4.

Patton's best Battle looks like half of Cannae with Monty butchering the other half.

Rommel ranks higher in my mind than Patton.

Obviously, this is open to debate and lot's of it.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
Patton and Rommel facing off at 50 metres with Rommel in a Tiger and Patton in a Sherman, aka the 'cigarette ligher' due to the fact that it burnd like one when hit...out come? Patton drills Rommel between the eyes with one of his Ivory-handled 45 revolvers before Rommel gets off a shot....end of debate.
do they start in or out of the tanks? This sounds a bit like the scean in one of the Indiana Jones films where some bad guy starts waving two swords around and yelling then indy just shoots him.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
metric is very useful and easy when doing science, Imperial is very good at everything else.
oh and duels should always be conducted in yards or paces.
OK, cool...learn something new everyday😀...by the way, how many meters are in one pace, or is a pace equal to one metre?

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Originally posted by Red Night
When you talk about the greatest generals of all time, not just US; you usually come up with the following list:

Ghenghis Khan
Hannibal
Alexander
Napoleon
Rommel
Lee
Julius Caesar


I'm not sure that the last three belong on the list, but you almost never see Patton. Why? Because he doesn't belong.

When I think about the 5 greatest battles ...[text shortened]... l ranks higher in my mind than Patton.

Obviously, this is open to debate and lot's of it.
you missed the duke of Marlbourough, never lost a battle. Also, why are naval or airial commanders not included? if they can be added then add nelson to the list.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
do they start in or out of the tanks? This sounds a bit like the scean in one of the Indiana Jones films where some bad guy starts waving two swords around and yelling then indy just shoots him.
LOL...no, they are standing atop their turrets and someone has a stop watch and says: "Go"...each has a choice of slipping into their turret and firing a slavo, or, in Pattos's case, sneakily drilling Rommel between the eyes, American-cowboy style....LOL..

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
OK, cool...learn something new everyday😀...by the way, how many meters are in one pace, or is a pace equal to one metre?
the pace is not an exact measurement, and varies from person to person, it is useually however taken to be around or just under one yard, unless of course the pacer is exceptionally tall. This brought to you from the department of fuzzy measurments.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
you missed the duke of Marlbourough, never lost a battle. Also, why are naval or airial commanders not included? if they can be added then add nelson to the list.
Marlborough is often couple with Eugen and together they make, in my mind, one of the two best combos in history. The other combo is Lee and Jackson.

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
LOL...no, they are standing atop their turrets and someone has a stop watch and says: "Go"...each has a choice of slipping into their turret and firing a slavo, or, in Pattos's case, sneakily drilling Rommel between the eyes, American-cowboy style....LOL..
It's what Patton alway's wanted to do!

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Originally posted by chancremechanic
OK, cool...learn something new everyday😀...by the way, how many meters are in one pace, or is a pace equal to one metre?
A meter is two cubits and a span.

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Originally posted by Red Night
When you talk about the greatest generals of all time, not just US; you usually come up with the following list:

Ghenghis Khan
Hannibal
Alexander
Napoleon
Rommel
Lee
Julius Caesar


I'm not sure that the last three belong on the list, but you almost never see Patton. Why? Because he doesn't belong.

When I think about the 5 greatest battles ...[text shortened]... l ranks higher in my mind than Patton.

Obviously, this is open to debate and lot's of it.
I wouldn't rate Lee anywhere near the first 4 you mention though he was certainly a great general. He had the advantage of fighting on the strategic defense in almost all his battles and on home ground unlike the others. The only two battles he fought outside Virginia he lost.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
I wouldn't rate Lee anywhere near the first 4 you mention though he was certainly a great general. He had the advantage of fighting on the strategic defense in almost all his battles and on home ground unlike the others. The only two battles he fought outside Virginia he lost.
I agree with you, I'm not sure that the last 3 belong at all. The point was that that's who usually get's mentioned and Patton never does.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
metric is very useful and easy when doing science, Imperial is very good at everything else.
oh and duels should always be conducted in yards or paces.
Imperial's crap when it comes to educating children.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
the pace is not an exact measurement, and varies from person to person, it is useually however taken to be around or just under one yard, unless of course the pacer is exceptionally tall. This brought to you from the department of fuzzy measurments.
about 1.48 metres

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_%28measurement%29